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.....What's this about BT downloading?
The Petrel uses BT downloading.
What's the difference between the original BT downloading and the "new" type?
Predator and Petrel use Bluetooth 3.0 while the new Petrel 2 uses Bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy (aka BLE)

This is quite a major feature as Apple (in their infinite wisdom) does not support SPP (serial port over BT - protocol used by the Predator / Petrel) and this prevented iOS Apps to support direct download logs from the Predator / Petrel.
Google (in their own infinite wisdom) does support SPP. In fact our Petrel Log Manager App currently works for Android devices.

With the Petrel 2 supporting BLE (finally) we can now create an iOS version of our Petrel Log Manager App :D
This should not take too long as we have been developing Apps supporting BLE devices since 2011.

I am pretty sure that other developers will be as happy as we are about this.

Alberto (aka eDiver)
 
Android also supports BLE. Does this change how Petrel Log Manager will work? I imagine before you were using rfcomm?
 
Thanks Shearwater for responding and interacting directly with SB
 
Android also supports BLE.......
Of course we know this .... we were the first ever company - in the world - to release a scuba diving Android App supporting BLE (almost 3 years ago!)

..... Does this change how Petrel Log Manager will work? ....
The new version of the PLM Android will use the proper communication protocol based on user settings. If you have a Predator or an "old" Petrel the App will keep using the same method. If you have a Petrel 2 the App will switch to BLE.

PLM for iOS will support only the Petrel 2
 
Kind of related to another thread OP started, for the amount of money for a petrel, I would invest in an used drysuit and a much cheaper used computer. I think drysuit makes a much bigger impact in NorCal diving than a fancy computer.

As for computer, get something with recreation nitrox support and gauge mode. these two features will take you very far in diving. You can always upgrade your computer later and the current computer will be your backup gauge.
 
One of the biggest advantages of the Petrel and a number of other computers, is the bright, colored display with large numbers. Not having to backlight or illuminate a screen in low light conditions is just lovely . . . When I bought my X1, it was the ONLY computer out there with that feature, and it was ridiculously expensive compared with other available computers, especially if you didn't use the tech diving component of it. Since then, there are a whole bunch of computers in that high price range, so price alone is no longer the issue.

But there are also now recreational computers with LED or OLED displays, as you see in this thread. So why buy a technical computer, when you could buy a pure recreational computer for roughly the same price, with the same type of display? I think the primary reason is that the technical computer does far less babysitting -- fewer alarms, more flexibility, less likelihood of getting locked out. (My X1 will let me do something downright stupid, and will obediently function on the next dive. Of course, most of the time, the "downright stupid" thing I've done is to forget to set it for the gas I'm actually breathing.)

If price is a factor, you can certainly buy any number of Nitrox capable, downloadable computers for far less money. I couldn't care less whether a computer has a digital compass, as I have yet to see one I thought was reliable or easy to use -- a wrist compass works just fine for me, and costs less than upgrading to a computer with compass capability. But once you get into the computers in the $750 to $1000 range, it's a matter of finding the features YOU like, with the fewest downsides, from a company with a good service reputation -- because if you use a computer long enough, something WILL go wrong, and it's awfully nice when the company stands behind its goods (which I can't say for Suunto).
 
The compass itself doesn't use much power, but we have to refresh the screen more often when the compass is being displayed, so that uses a bit more power. I completely understand people not wanting extra menu entries for things they never use. For those that don't want to use the compass, they can disable it. We have always spent a lot of time making the menus as simple as possible.

The newer Bluetooth chip allows connections to Apple handheld devices.

Bruce

Help me out here...

I just got my new Petrel 2 yesterday and I can't find a compass in it anywhere. I thought I was accidentally shipped a Petrel 1 by mistake, since neither the box or manual say anything about being a P2. I even tried updating the software from the website, even though it's a brand new computer. Still no compass...

After much time on the Internet, what I'm finding is that there's apparently nothing to distinguish a P1 from a P2 other than the firmware version. Is that right? I also see a post from Shearwater on Rebreather World that the compass isn't available yet, but it will be available later as a software upgrade for an additional fee.

So I'm feeling like there is no such thing as a P2, and I just bought an upgraded P1. No wonder the price is the same...

What's gives?
 
So I'm feeling like there is no such thing as a P2, and I just bought an upgraded P1. No wonder the price is the same.

What do you mean?? A Petrel2 IS an upgraded Petrel1. I don't get the problem. The Petrel2 is a Petrel1 with a compass chip added and the Bluetooth updated. If you've got Hardware Rev 2.4.0 or later you've got a Petrel2.
 
The hardware version is different. I believe the Petrel 2s are version 2.4.0 or higher.
 
https://www.shearwater.com/products/peregrine/

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