Question Should you overfill lp tanks without a + stamp?

[gmerick]

Disappointed by the whole discussion.
The bargain LP95 tank I own doesn't have the air capacity needed for my planned dive.
1. Larger tank HP117 for the same weight and buoyancy characteristics, HP149 for 50% more capacity
2. Doubles - SM, BM, or independent BM.
3. CCR
3. Ignore safety, manufacturer recommendations, dive instruction agency practices, government regulations, insurance company policy.
Put everyone any near your bargain 95 at risk, and fill that thing like it was a fill station bank bottle.

At least I hope the owner of that pumped up 95 informs everyone within 100 yards of that tank of the pressure that potential bomb is containing.
For myself -- I'm calling the dive. If my potential insta-buddy starts out the dive with that much disregard for my safety, what other risks does that diver ignore? Sorry, just not going there.

 

[Whitrzac]

Disappointed by the whole discussion.
The bargain LP95 tank I own doesn't have the air capacity needed for my planned dive.
1. Larger tank HP117 for the same weight and buoyancy characteristics, HP149 for 50% more capacity
2. Doubles - SM, BM, or independent BM.
3. CCR
3. Ignore safety, manufacturer recommendations, dive instruction agency practices, government regulations, insurance company policy.
Put everyone any near your bargain 95 at risk, and fill that thing like it was a fill station bank bottle.

At least I hope the owner of that pumped up 95 informs everyone within 100 yards of that tank of the pressure that potential bomb is containing.
For myself -- I'm calling the dive. If my potential insta-buddy starts out the dive with that much disregard for my safety, what other risks does that diver ignore? Sorry, just not going there.

Lol, Take your out of trim YOKE tanks back to the rec shop you got them from and ask for a refund on the sm class you took.

People have been cave filling steels for 40(?) years. Not one has failed

 

[flymolo]

Last year I overheard a shop in north florida saying their oldest tanks from the 70s or so were just starting to fail hydro

 

[Lorenzoid]

People have been cave filling steels for 40(?) years. Not one has failed

I'd emphasize that it's not just "people" but well-established dive shops in cave country whose busy fill stations do a hundred or more fills on a busy weekend.

 

[PfcAJ]

Disappointed by the whole discussion.
The bargain LP95 tank I own doesn't have the air capacity needed for my planned dive.
1. Larger tank HP117 for the same weight and buoyancy characteristics, HP149 for 50% more capacity
2. Doubles - SM, BM, or independent BM.
3. CCR
3. Ignore safety, manufacturer recommendations, dive instruction agency practices, government regulations, insurance company policy.
Put everyone any near your bargain 95 at risk, and fill that thing like it was a fill station bank bottle.

At least I hope the owner of that pumped up 95 informs everyone within 100 yards of that tank of the pressure that potential bomb is containing.
For myself -- I'm calling the dive. If my potential insta-buddy starts out the dive with that much disregard for my safety, what other risks does that diver ignore? Sorry, just not going there.

You see, the locals had a habit of overfilling their tanks. Each tank is the equivalent to a 1 pound brick of c4 (that’s what the navy Seals use to breech walls).

There I was, minding my own business when two exploded at the ginnie springs parking lot. The campers and tubers… I can’t unsee this but I’m going to describe it so YOU make the safe choice. They were shredded. Kids. Women. Ripped apart. Pandemonium.

Usually, the tanks explode at home and no one gets hurt (that’s why you never hear about it). But not this day. I was there. I saw it.

This practice HAS TO BE STOPPED. Think of the children.

 

[ofg-1]

Some of you guys would not have survived the 70's in cave country without a fainting couch.

When you should worry is when you bounce a set of pumped doubles out of the back of your truck driving down the road.

 

[L13]

A damage or improperly maintained cylinder can be extremely hazardous well bellow labeled operating pressure.

For steel cylinders at or below hydro pressures,they are perfectly safe at or below the last pressure they were tested at unless damage since the last test. The reason for the testing is to detect previously undetected damage. For the same reasons visual inspections are important on all cylinders, undetected damage is dangerous.

 

[Robert H. Diver]

You see, the locals had a habit of overfilling their tanks. Each tank is the equivalent to a 1 pound brick of c4 (that’s what the navy Seals use to breech walls).

There I was, minding my own business when two exploded at the ginnie springs parking lot. The campers and tubers… I can’t unsee this but I’m going to describe it so YOU make the safe choice. They were shredded. Kids. Women. Ripped apart. Pandemonium.

Usually, the tanks explode at home and no one gets hurt (that’s why you never hear about it). But not this day. I was there. I saw it.

This practice HAS TO BE STOPPED. Think of the children.

 

[Tracy]

You see, the locals had a habit of overfilling their tanks. Each tank is the equivalent to a 1 pound brick of c4 (that’s what the navy Seals use to breech walls).

There I was, minding my own business when two exploded at the ginnie springs parking lot. The campers and tubers… I can’t unsee this but I’m going to describe it so YOU make the safe choice. They were shredded. Kids. Women. Ripped apart. Pandemonium.

Usually, the tanks explode at home and no one gets hurt (that’s why you never hear about it). But not this day. I was there. I saw it.

This practice HAS TO BE STOPPED. Think of the children.

I agree. I had 34 of them blow up in my basement last year alone. Really made a mess. I was sweeping up metal fragments for weeks.

 

[rddvet]

Disappointed by the whole discussion.
The bargain LP95 tank I own doesn't have the air capacity needed for my planned dive.
1. Larger tank HP117 for the same weight and buoyancy characteristics, HP149 for 50% more capacity
2. Doubles - SM, BM, or independent BM.
3. CCR
3. Ignore safety, manufacturer recommendations, dive instruction agency practices, government regulations, insurance company policy.
Put everyone any near your bargain 95 at risk, and fill that thing like it was a fill station bank bottle.

At least I hope the owner of that pumped up 95 informs everyone within 100 yards of that tank of the pressure that potential bomb is containing.
For myself -- I'm calling the dive. If my potential insta-buddy starts out the dive with that much disregard for my safety, what other risks does that diver ignore? Sorry, just not going there.

Jesus man, it's an overfilled tank. It's not TNT from the 1940s you just found in an abandoned mineshaft. 10s of 1000s of tanks have been overfilled in florida and mexico. The only injuries and deaths we really see are oxygen accidents at least that I can remember.

You do what makes you comfy but calling it a potential bomb is sensationalization and silly. Don't ever learn to cave dive. There's 50 other things that will make you sh-t your pants worse than a pumped up tank.