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UTD Z+, Razor BAT or Xdeep Stealth 2.0

Discussion in 'Sidemount Diving' started by Pao, Oct 1, 2012.

  1. mulla

    mulla Solo Diver

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    Thanks for the explaination, didn't realise there's different attachment options. Checked out the pdf manual online and it's perfectly clear now.


    Thanks for the tip on how to stay afloat. Think you've mentioned that in another post of yours too, have kept it in mind.


    Hm... Yes the alpha/delta might be the best option considering it's going to be a tropical tech rig, even if I decide to use it here, I pretty much dive dry all year round lift capacity shouldn't be too much of an issue. The lesser air movement definately sounds good. Plus the fact that I love my SMS100 except for the physical size.

    Just to make sure I'm looking at the right thing this is what I need to get yer?
    UTD Online Store - +1 855 DIVEUTD (348-3883) or +1 760 585-9676 - sales@utdequipment.com
     
  2. decompression

    decompression Instructor...seriously...

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    Yes, that's the one.....ill post my pictures tomorrow.

    photo1.jpg photo3.jpg photo4.jpg

    This is my cold water set up, Alpha/Delta trim device mounted to a SS backplate.
    The first picture shows my original bungee, white with clip for D ring. Also, there is the black bungee that is attatched to the backplate and under the webbing and over a glide with shallow D ring and tied in a knot, keeps the larger D rings clutter free.
    The black bungee is what i use now.
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2012
  3. sebaworld

    sebaworld Angel Fish

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    "mulla" nothing more wrong about separate BC from harness, I know its hard to believe every advantage that is broadcast-ed about Stealth 2.0 without trying
    but there is plenty of advantages of having that made this way than fixed to the harness.

    First one you will notice right away when setting up the rig, you will achieve perfect weight / buoyancy center balance in few minutes simply because moving the wing slightly up or down
    sometimes changes the whole world !
    In other systems with fixed wings divers often play with weights placement as a main trim regulators, here it will be most likely second tool then primary, and when you use slightly both you will get amazing results
    easy to reconfigure and adjust in minutes to every exposure protection, tank numbers, their weight etc.

    You can double up the wing easily for redundant BC diving wetsuit with heavy multi-tank configuration.

    If you will take a look at our Facebook Instructional Gallery here: xDeep Stealth 2.0 Setup you can quickly notice the ease and versatility of that BC, simplicity and clean configuration.

    Its a very secure, comfortable solution. I could be saying more and more but lets take a quick brake from pushing one another and look at the facts, check Stealth Facebook Users Group
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/443899082296325/ where hundreds of users, divers, sidemount instructors talks about differences, pluses, minuses - not many so far or none :)

    Based on feedback gathered after selling first quite big batches of Stealth 2.0 in few days we're confident enough to say that will take back any Stealth 2.0 for full refund even if used to try.
    You just have to put it to work and experience the essence of many conclusions coming from diving thousands times in many different sidemount systems, configurations and environments.

    Good luck !
     
  4. mulla

    mulla Solo Diver

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    Decompression - Thanks for the photos, understand the knotted bungee option now. The SS Backplace is your BM setup yer? For SM I just need the Z harness? What's the biggest number of tanks you've dived with in that setup?

    Seabaworld - I definitely can see some of the advantages of having a separate adjustable inflation device, however, to me it's another piece of gear to contend with when gearing up, another bit of equipment that may get misplaced while traveling? But it would be nice if I could try one. Pity we are such a small market here in this country, not many of these SM systems are available locally :(

    I'm hoping to make a decision by 1st quarter next year, get some test dives in and be ready for a trip mid year :)
     
  5. rongoodman

    rongoodman ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I'll be putting my Razor II up for sale as soon as I get home. It's striking how much more stable the Stealth is in the water,with much less opportunity for the gas to move around.
     
  6. divewelder

    divewelder DIR Practitioner

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  7. decompression

    decompression Instructor...seriously...

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    I usually dive 2 steel HP 120's with the delta wing, easy to add one or 2 al 40 deco bottles....with drysuit. The z trim is fine for 2 al 80's and a deco bottle. I like the backplate option for cold water as it gives an extra bit of weight and doesn't really affect mobility considering the tanks, drysuit, etc. it's a big plus to be able to switch your wings between harnesses and back plates.....
     
  8. mulla

    mulla Solo Diver

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    Thanks everyone for the input and advice! Plenty of food for thought until I'm ready to pull the trigger, hopefully, would meet some fellow SM divers locally too and check out their setup.
     
  9. Kevrumbo

    Kevrumbo Banned

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    On the UTD website, AG says that the Z-trim 9kg/20lbs wing can support four AL80's (S80's); after another week here in Truk Lagoon, all you really need to comfortably breath floating on the surface pre-dive is a snorkel. The Z-trim wing will float you fine in the prone horizontal position -with all the tanks noted above- but face down in the water. . ,
     
  10. CWSWine

    CWSWine Solo Diver

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    I was told the XDeep sidemount system will allow you to float at the surface upright. I do not know for a fact, just what I was told but I will know since I do have one on order. The first time I be able to get in in the water will be the 16th of Dec.
     

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