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UTD Z+, Razor BAT or Xdeep Stealth 2.0

Discussion in 'Sidemount Diving' started by Pao, Oct 1, 2012.

  1. SangP

    SangP Loggerhead Turtle

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    I have dove from rickety canoes, slippery round cobbles beaches and from smaller boats using bm and stages.... never again!

    As I never dive solo me and my buddy are always able to help with each other's tanks while one goes to lay em on the beach or em toss up on the boat. Granted they can be a real pain in choppy conditions but with butterfly snaps on all the tanks and by clipping the necks to the shoulder D rings I can handle most conditions.
     
  2. JamesK

    JamesK Solo Diver

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    ok, this just confused me more. It sounds like you only had two AL80's. Well one if you consider the fact that you had someone else tow your other one. What is the rest of your setup that makes you so negative that the z-trim will not keep you afloat at the surface. I am negative as well, and only need the weight to counteract the gas and my wetsuit. You went to 187 feet in this dive, but you do not mention any other tanks.
     
  3. Kevrumbo

    Kevrumbo Banned

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    Here in Santo Vanuatu, but now shore diving with surface swims up to 100 meters from beach (albeit now with a leaky Z-trim OPV); barely comfortable staying afloat and making headway out to the mid-wreck descent buoy of the SS President Coolidge. Dive guide initially towed both deco AL40's of 50% and Oxygen, as well as one of my sidemount AL80's, and dropped the deco bottles on the ascent line sloping up to the surface on the reef from the wreck at about 15m depth. At operating depth, I was on my two AL80 sidemounts with air bottom mix and able to hold reasonable trim but constantly adding inflation gas to the Z-trim wing; On my deco stops starting at 15m, I could not hold neutral buoyancy at all with both AL80's and both AL40's clipped-on now because of the Z-trim OPV leak.

    Still not planning on upgrading to the higher lift capacity Z-plus wing for Z-system doubles sidemount (but probably purchase a new Z-trim wing as a replacement, now with a conventional OPV and not the smaller mushroom valve style of the original earlier model I have which is currently leaking); any deeper dive here in the tropics which requires multiple deco/stage bottles, then I would just go back to conventional backmount manifolded doubles on BP/W.
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2012
  4. TecDiveGear

    TecDiveGear ScubaBoard Business Sponsor ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    Here is an updated list of US and Canada xDeep dealers so if you would like to check out Stealth 2.0 Sidemount System live please contact or visit these stores.

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    C2Sea Scuba
    3124 SW 29th Street #5
    Topeka, KS 66614
    +1 785 228 3535
    C2SeaScuba - Home



    Northeast Scuba Supply
    919 North Trooper Road
    Norristown,‎PA‎ 19403
    +1 610 631 2288
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    Dive Right In Scuba
    24222 West Lockport Street
    Plainfield, IL 60544
    phone: +1 815-267-8400
    website: Dive Right In Scuba | Plainfield scuba diving lessons and scuba equipment. We also provide scuba certification for the Chicago area.




    Deep Blue Adventure
    3915 North Sheridan Road
    Peoria, Illinois 61614
    phone: +1 309-685-4294
    website: Deep Blue Adventure


    Tec Dive Gear
    103 Valley Dr
    Millstone Twp., NJ 08535
    phone: +1 201 710 0042
    Dive gear store - Tec Dive Gear - Backmounted and Sidemount Dive Systems, Technical Diving Equipment







    ------- CANADA ------------------
    Einstein Scuba
    3837 Rue Saint-Jacques Ouest
    Montréal, QC H4C, Canada
    Phone: 514-907-1090
    Fax: 514-564-9099
    website: www.einsteinscuba.com
     
  5. TecDiveGear

    TecDiveGear ScubaBoard Business Sponsor ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    For everyone starving to try new Stealth 2.0. We will run a "Try before you buy" program in two weeks, you will be able to get specially colored Stealth 2.0 demo unit to test drive for free !
    For detailed info check from time to time our website or like our Facebook page for project updates.

    Cheers !
     
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  6. Johanan

    Johanan ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    FWIW, this is how a distinguished sidemount instructor commented on some of the rigs discussed here:

     
  7. JamesK

    JamesK Solo Diver

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    Does this instructor happen to sell the Diamond? I ask, because I look at it, and have concerns about it. Is it marketed as an OW rig? The inflators location puts it right on what could possibly be the highest point of your body. Not really something I want scraping the top of a cave. Although that does look like it could be swapped out, you still end up with a chunk of plastic topside. I also don't see the sliding dring setup he is referring to. Has the system changed? All I see are two drings on each side of the waist strap. Also, is the wing chambered? It appears like it would balloon up just like a batwing. Not knocking the system, I just don't see anything that would make this so much better then the others mentioned.
     
  8. Johanan

    Johanan ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Sent you a PM.
     
  9. Pao

    Pao Manta Ray

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    The Stealth 2.0 is way "deep" in back-order. Ordered my bladder from DRIS about 3 weeks ago and still not available yet :(.
     
  10. TSandM

    TSandM Missed and loved by many. Rest in Peace

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    That deal on a "try before you buy" Stealth would definitely hook me . . . One of the biggest problems with sidemount is clear in this thread. Too many different designs, too many idiosyncrasies, and no ability to try various makes to see what will work for you before you put down a whole lot of money. Keeps me in backmount . . .
     

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