Red Sea Liveaboard Sinking

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g um I think dinner and am
At the end of the day you meet, then we haven't seen each other for a long time or many haven't seen each other for a long time
a bit of telling that usually took place a deck over the dive decks that was kind of a turning point
On the outside you then talked a bit and at some point yes I would say in between
10:30 a.m., people went into the cabins one after the other
did you actually do an emergency exercise on day one in addition to the briefing that you should try the
looked at the meeting point that you tried the emergency exits
just tell me the first thing and that I had to remember
on the day of the accident my urge to urinate was so I had to go to the toilet and that
was relatively early 4:4:30 a.m. and I woke up and was startled
what a shock the ship was standing so we were tangled I mean four towers two in front two in the back
but the ship was so askew that I
almost fell off the toilet i was really worried
but then looked out what this little porthole of a ship didn't really move and I'm me
I'm not sure anymore if I could see Tau but I don't know if I looked out and was then reassured okay
now we have the heeling again that they will fix it again has the weather situation changed or
yes we had good weather yes later that day the sun rose and indeed
fantastic weather so not a cloud in the sky and that when we got up and
did the first dive I don't remember mine are at 6 o'clock in May
Got up at 6 a.m. so the insult was there and it was extreme
so it was so extreme that the plate slipped away at breakfast later
That was an extreme insult because we asked again, many asked um
all sorts of people around the globe and um yeah the answer was the wind and
new ship and we still have to practice a bit with the ropes here and then as soon as we are from a thousand
the ships the case just you can tell what situation to see and how many headlines that
were about degrees so as I said it was enough that as
you sat on the chair you slipped with the chair that was quite reasonable okay could cover that
okay so if i can't really say if he's particularly strong now i don't have him particularly strong
[music] in my head I have the night on top of that
So we slept on the sun deck under the open sky and it wasn't that uncomfortable
that you couldn't have slept there so that was okay
Have some of the furniture moved further or was that was the chairs have tables couch stories
something further shifted [music]
so that was the beginning you were in the bathroom at 4:30 a.m. breakfast was
probably at 6 o'clock that means and then the first dive okay only
after that we went to breakfast but that's why I can tell you that even after our first dive the
really awesome was the slight didn't go away so it was exactly the same angle as the den
we also observed when setting up okay and the angle the heeling
wasn't in the side the ship cantered into afterwards so it was that
Opposite yes [music]
okay that means you did the first dive and then came back and how did it go then exactly did the first dive
returned we are three groups dived equipment filed regulator replaced
from the bottle ready for breakfast and then had breakfast and
I mean it was after breakfast when we headed in
Direction what Mohammed interrupts me when when
we had breakfast there, the cool ones started getting the ship ready for the transfer for the crossing
everything stowed the bottles moored so completely normal this this procedure
what did we do the same tour last year that wasn't anything unusual for us we did
we finished breakfast either laid us or some people
have gone to the cabin from the first dive and
yeah just go to sleep a bit or
after discarding then changed something about the insult
I don't mean not right away I know Zoe was a bit sick yeah
true wanted to stay in the cabin and so I also knew this crossing from last year and know that is already
was relatively open and wobbled a lot so I didn't want to stay in the dressing room because we
were below deck and then always got her talking to the fact you
have to look at the horizon then you'll feel better who knows if that might be us or you
that saved the life but we're high back over the dive deck in the
rear of the boat what I can tell is that then
with the first minutes of my first time first the heeling like

 

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who hired
I know I calmed myself down a bit and said okay then you have it now then it will work
now and then we just went out and drove for a while, that means we've already seen that
in front the waves hit the book quite well but in the first on the first section of the
I can't remember this panel movement now, and it came later over time
accurate but still stable or
I can only say that we knew it from last year, when it shook quite a lot, so that's it
Trash can fell over a bottle from the table we had everything
which actually all of us were there last year with one or two exceptions
that was known and then shocked no one anymore ne so we knew what was said to ne stop yourself
bit tight ne that can wobble accordingly we didn't worry as well as the commuting then
first of all, that has increased even more, even those who get the drums there
discovered during the crossing we had yes when we were still had
we, the ones to port, i.e. to the left, then set off and after a
time um drink so this is night and it was
so uncomfortable because that ship didn't come back so we're pretty much over how many degrees it was know
I don't so definitely so we the people that we had to hold each other or hold somewhere else we'll stop
slipped down from the Sonnenberg the ship stood still for what felt like 20 25 seconds
on the side and only came back very lazily
and then we drove on maybe a minute two [music]
then it went back to the right side then the ship stood from the angle
a little worse than the first time on the right again a little longer
then came back very slowly and maybe a minute or two
was it then that we were so far right over that we were all thrown under many of the word us
Didn't have to hold on and we came back up
then that's gotta leave that's like a full ride happened
So during the crossing without recognizable maneuvers or something, but straight ahead
Driving straight ahead, no control movement was felt there or not
that we heard the roar of the engines that he somehow made a change to the so I did
I didn't notice anything about it, I've always just wondered why he isn't reacting now, but what is he doing
okay where was your group where was
the crew when the whole thing had then so dramatically laid aside
so we were close to mike as said on this one we can maybe take a photo of
I'll call it the sun deck over the diving platform
first floor you might say in the outside area and I would say Mike that we were around ten ten people
maybe 12 people and stayed there there were some at the top of the ship
there were three people who found each other in the saloon there was
three people below deck um different people in the cabins in the
Luckily, the upper deck is not on the side that I guess is tilted
at least that is not known to me. Parts of the crew were in the cabins
found each other at the front of the ship and apparently also in the middle of it because I
knew that there were no windows so you can say we were good
Spread across the ship you can count how many people were on the upper floors and whether there was anything
changed before it happened so no no it can't many
have been so you have now unless you count
now where we were, which was already on the first floor if you count that then
most will have been but over it and that will be
maybe on the deck at the top of this sun deck or on the bar since there were two decks i only saw
nor the bar above it and then my deck over it, so the roof as it were
that could only have been three or four people, so Mark, I think Harry has a diving instructor in there
I saw there when I just before the people on the top two
ultimately okay that means most people stopped in the uh on the deck just above the dive deck to
must [music]
[Music] there were signs indicating the stay of
People have limited the number of people who are allowed to stay on the upper decks
did you notice anything before this before this list before this
detection could still have happened did you hear anything there were objects falling through the area something may have broken out
so you heard about the flood what we heard i didn't see it i don't think either because
when I remember that the com
pressors were torn from their anchorages and then slipped down
probably at the first extreme pendulum swing where were
the compression they have found in the rear
[Music]
[Music] I can't say what the rash was either, so we've already heard from from
other divers
yes and of course objects are almost nothing attached and we
later found kitchens complete couch lounge sets chairs
Upholstery cushions think everything water dispenser trash can it's a yes
that was awful i think it covered handrails so you could move around on this one
strong warping handle indeed
I think the closing sentence was that the safety briefing that it's a new ship here so if you guys have any
you notice let us know at the end of the trip and I know that someone else said why you don't have railings
at the stairs
were they were the tables was the furniture screwed to the floor somehow fixed or was it all loose that
Of course I couldn't solve the chairs
But I can't say whether they ripped out because if they didn't find it there, they didn't go in either, no
so from what I've heard there was a group that was in the drawing room and they were unfortunately sitting on their sides
who leaned into the water they said all the furniture fell on it too and that was it
tables and there was, among other things, the lady who is fast approaching 70
Chairs, couches, tables, bookshelves
all objects everything everything fell on the group
what period of time are we talking about, how slowly did the ship tilt, how long did it all take
lasted yes the inclination that went pretty quickly but that's within
five to ten seconds I don't have any feeling anymore, we were already at the maximum point but that
Ship always didn't get up again for quite a long time at these and these maximum hungry and then were at
the third time you also love to stand there and keep saying with time more and more that was then
yes minutes so it went it all went fast people started walking around
many slip down we couldn't hold them we could fight it I'm not supposed to support any more um
People were sliding down, hitting the railing, many of them into the water, the ship had no idea
maybe ten knots on top of that, people always preferred to talk there without life jackets without them
Possibility to hold on to any lifebuoys, there were no boats in the water, they immediately drifted
gone and they were there all alone [music] we didn't have a chance to
throwing anything so life jackets and no life preservers a regulation
fastened I didn't see any otherwise we would have broken them afterwards the sodax tore loose or
what happened there a kodiaq got stuck somehow
wedged by something that fell on it and people from the crew were able to free the second one
and then they got it into the water and after a while it was there and then they could
People are then collected who were thrown from the ceiling but badly damaged, so one of the hoses
was 50% already um you can take a time when this
Precipitation happened something like this
the problem was that friends of ours then left
The life raft that was attached above released into the water so lowered it into the water but did not trigger it
but that drove in this situation [music]
when that was stowed away, it continued to float in the water in these half-shells
jumped and then somehow got these half-shells apart
get that the first rescueless was then also triggered problem was um that
is also a headstand so it reads up and then stood upside down in the water and they also came with me
one of the cows in the boat that was sitting in the soyak that tried to turn around but that was not possible
they are so big that it didn't work, so it was upside down and wasn't actually closed
to use other than to hold onto [music]
yes, the other one on the right was irrevocably triggered, that was then also next to it
the yes next to the offended boat ship
and then we joined and then supported the people and
then into this to get this helpless
because people in this in this raft to bring yes
[music] because it's pretty chaotic so a lot of people swam around so of course everyone has
hell of a fear now there somehow that that that blood coming completely turns that that still the life raft
with uh yes with pulls down with on that on that
cant people are there yes all were pretty pretty in the end many have
had written scared parts of the cow could not even could not at all
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n after that to bring to this island and yes it was quite
scary situation [music]
left coordination done you can easily all the
Simply write a discussion from the moment the boss tipped over
until the moment until the moment we were rescued no coordination
[music] and that's why you might have read it in a lot of places too
Crew did not save us yes in the crew there were three people I would take it out
were two dive guides and it was said that one is a freelancer
being thrown off board is certainly not his fault and then there was another dive guide who got involved
one of the crew put what in this sodiaq in this dinghy
first the three people who went overboard has collected and afterwards one for one on the
Liferaft has been brought but the last one they forgot it was
so we didn't count that, in our panic we tried a completely overcrowded life raft
to manage yourself with is your dive was trying to find out who is missing we found out too but that
can't tell from the crew okay has another one below deck ne
or two people below the deck yes so when I tell the story
that's exactly maximum break carry on yes okay
because I unfortunately have to go now I have to be really stupid but I have to I have to go I
[music] don't know if we're going to make another appointment tomorrow or the day after that I think it'll take a while
a bit underestimated we can yes we will continue for now
or don't continue and then we'll see how far we can get
so
Mike, thank you very much for going there if you have to go then we'll continue with a Dominik like that. Thank you
us first for all the information and um yeah um see how far we get
okay, we stopped at the situation, which still gives us chills, um, two more
People are driving in the ship, so you can see we are still very close
and I think I speak for everyone when I say during that hour we all thought we wouldn't see tomorrow
the periods of time that the thought was there may have been different
but we thought we were going to die we must die that day on this ship
was certainly the worst story on board
very experienced diver between 8 and 9000 dives instructor
comes to the Red Sea every year and has been for 28 years
knows the practice sometimes better than the guides of incredibly calm experienced divers
was below deck in his cabin and the same goes for for
David and Christian father and son father with their age son I mean
also 21 so early 20 good divers experienced divers
technical divers yes below deck and the boat tilts
was able to free himself from the cabin in the aisle there was no emergency power
so he says that's what he says pitch black cool frame black water level in the aisle
and he checked every cabin to see if there were still people in the cabins
his best friend's son has been there were upper deck he was
flung from the word that wasn't with him so three people they have cabin
for cabin they went through fought their way through to the front in
the bow where the cabin was with the outer hatch and the hatch does not open
otherwise tried with three men and the hatch could not be opened
I'll just ask you whether there were emergency exit signs or not at all
nothing i have he said i didn't see anything except a slight one
Shimmer of light from the stairwell so he fights his way through with the two
the stairwell and see you have to imagine that the ceiling so the stairs the stairwell
Stairs are no longer on the right but on the ceiling
and there was no banister so and it was laminate I think
Definitely laid a very slippery floor so he put himself against the wall
and first lifted the young diver with his 20 years on his shoulders until he reached his feet
he could grab it and he pushed it up and he did the same with his father
done and then he stayed behind
and asked them to leave the ship
over time the ship continued to fill with water and after about 30 minutes he was able to do it on his own
somehow I don't like that today don't like
So he has to grab the edge of the stairs from the lower deck
freed had to dive and said there was still so much air in the saloon that he with
the mouth on the ceiling could take two breaths everything was floating around
So two deep breaths of air is taken from the saloon and the doors dipped
were blasted out it dived through the entire dive blanket
yes in the direction of the open sea and no one was there anymore
it may be swam the entire boat didn't see anyone and eventually made it i think
in the bow back onto the wrac
k to ascend that climbed to the highest point
where then according to their own information and freighter saw the
gave alarm signals okay that means she had at the moment
already given up on him or like that so it was a complete one
chaotic situation, we had people overboard, we didn't even know where it would be and the aqua was so strong
damaged so we didn't want to put too many people in that boat either so for us there were always two scenarios
that's a scenario or three that's one is ship knows he's going through we said as soon as we realize
that the angle changes we have to get in the water far away from the boat um the second scenario was the ship is sinking we
but noticed that it doesn't sing fast so we said as long as we
Yes, feeling reasonably safe, we stay on board with the three people who fell overboard
saw that they drifted away from the ship very quickly and we only ever had the thought
here you can find us yes so we tried this inflatable boat
so to coordinate I just think we coordinated it that's not overloaded because we had
yes, only this rubber dinghy, so only three or four people in this boat because you really saw the water
drinks in yes the hose was flat yes it still stood after yes actually the
the bow was out of the water so we only have four five people in at a time
The liferaft was brought and there were two liferafts mine was at the time I got into the liferaft
didn't realize that the second life raft wasn't usable but that was upside down but I got it
not noticed so you have to imagine we came to this island relatively recently
totally translated which we didn't care but there was only this island and
we tried to count we also tried to count the crew until we noticed it wasn't there
and I only know that we told the driver and the dive guide that way
one is missing you have to go back we have to search how far away was that one
2300 meters maybe so that's all just information I remember but it was far away so me
just thought of the ship we will never make it and i would say we are all good swimmers on this one
We would never have managed to swim on a liferaft
yes, so we were on this liferaft counting on the most diverse
Kinds until we eventually realized about that was this system and process of elimination one is missing
and yes there was no list so there were no on board documents were still available in the life raft can log book
no list of crew guests
and on each side, as I understand it, they had a life raft with 25 with 25
Person capacity, one of which is then almost lying on his back
came up and couldn't be straightened up, so I don't think they both came up by themselves
it was only possible to pull and press it, in any case, it is opened manually, that the version I know is the
one was lying on the back was useless and in the second was the
complete
Jan Philipp still have questions until then
did you send a signal of longing, yes, you tried
Liferaft so hand flares you normally have signal rockets false signal rockets yes there were signal rockets
three pieces I think I can remember two shot down
both have ignited me so normally there is the red dot
it didn't exist, there was no parachute attached, so you actually only saw a trail of smoke upwards and
that's it
Did you use the hand torches that were present if they were present or also shot down the third one
what we've been there in my opinion we wouldn't have had to shoot down those flares too
at that point in time because there was simply because he heaved to that is
I didn't understand why we fired them at all, the life raft was still there
a third one that I had given me that didn't fire me
but at that point I have to say [music]
So the first time I thought about it was surviving this when we went to the island
I think we have already seen the second safari boat
yes definitely the freighter but also the second safari boat that means there was definitely an emergency call over the radio
Dropped off or don't you know what I can say the crew of the second safari boat
who really so it was the best thing that could have happened to us super responded very professionally
responded well took care of us we talked to the captain or to his own and he
told us they tried to find us and got no response
yes, they saw that something was wrong, I don't know if they saw us
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knew there was something wrong and we tried to get you guys started and there was no response
how long did it take until the second safari ship was with you I know the time and the situation very much
It's difficult to judge, so I think we looked up the whole campaign
from capsizing to the last one staying on safari was about one
Hour
was locked in and stayed behind alone because they couldn't rescue was the last to get on board that
means for him the whole thing took an hour so he wasn't in the life raft
I think that's direct
a statement of what happened from the point of view you noticed something
did not see actually the cow has kept away from us so we were
glad we saved them we counted them we asked so everyone is there yes everyone is there
Thank god though
so you have to imagine we were we had injuries which of course from
Organizers also became significant or was denied shocked people and everyone was happy
that all are still alive what kind of injury was there
severe head injury
it was also sewn up on board head injuries were sewn up
Cuts some but minor bruises
To this day I still don't understand why there were injuries, I would say the head injuries were relative
bad injuries but that didn't happen anymore i it's real
wonderful to the end the second safari ship had taken you from the
Liferaft and then drove with you again to the changed map Queen or
How did you get to your last colleague who is, I would say
so I estimated at a safe distance because it was because the whole water was full of with ropes with any
Pillow I think they just didn't want to pull anything into the screws so they have one of their two
Inflatable boats sent to the life raft and three or four times so first the women and then we got the older ones out
I think they drove three times, yes, and the last one separately
what was it about the people you can still see on the fuselage video?
you know that don't know if which photo you are referring to that there was
Video footage where you see the liferaft with people in it and then that was done by someone on the side
So on the side of the ship it basically said recorded and there were several people on the ship's hold yes
so we also stood on the side of the ship, we saved ourselves on the side of the ship, but so we had that
feeling we are safer than the others
that's why they tried to pick us up two or three times where we said take the others
you had that for one wave at the time
so I can't remember that had known swayed
but of course in the life raft that is quite well remembered
I think there is also a video where you can see that it wasn't that small
okay she got the whole thing then further
designed you were then driven back to Hurghada or no we are back at that as all
we were on board, then we counted them two, three times, so to speak, to the dive site
returned to where we started
so about an hour maybe an hour and a half and been on this boat
Yes, three four hours we were on that
Floors were really well supplied with towels, bathrobes and food
fruit water drinks two were treated by the doctor or
operated that means there had become a doctor on the second Safar
which was fortunately well equipped only came over when I saw the situation
so he assessed the situation and then went back to get his cutlery and then actually sewed the people
yes there was also some kind of psychological support while she was there
was transported
was you promised or told something about the personal belongings that are lost
happened whether they are replaced whether there is insurance coverage yes, we have a lot to do with ourselves
said that's why we don't trust anyone anymore but it started with we don't have insurance
have to pay for the damage yourself, do that with your insurance company
later we sorted ourselves at the beginning we were the objects of the
Damage didn't matter because we lived but of course we we have people
who have lost their working gear as a diving instructor you need one
Diving gear and can't do that either so this season is coming up in two three four weeks on its own
It's just not possible to buy new power, we had people with us with laptops
because they are self-employed and had to keep in touch with their customers, so the devices are gone at some point
Of course, the question was asked what is what about our things now and what does it look like and
we
were actually just a lie maybe you should just go on chronologically that means he waits then
another dive site and since then when brought back to shore
that really took three hours, yes, in total I would also say we would say 3 to 4 hours on the house
we were picked up by the navy and then I continued
when the Marina drove us back to Hurghada with a speedboat
and it took two hours
the beach an ambulance an ambulance
our friend has head injuries it has been driven away and we have one
Girlfriend who at least thought she broke her rib and wanted internal injuries
rule out so she too was then taken to the hospital with her partner
yes for the rest of us it was a few more photos [music]
to a hotel without care without everything that was there
Bus campus are two star hotel
moldy bathrooms and Egyptian weddings
and who would have organized the military or organizers
and one was the only contact person who was there at some point
the man who drove the taxi took us from the airport to Sport
brought we had no shoes on we had
through tight pants, underwear and a t-shirt that we had for him
time so we said what's next we need shoes we need a toothbrush we need
Shampoo we need plasters we need so there were some things many
need medication everything went down with if we go diving then we will
sometimes a good supply with you in case something happens, everything is gone
Was your contact options a bit limited because I think it only has one cell phone
survived the whole thing nope there were actually a few more I can
won't tell you how many teams didn't work or later won't work anymore
then the charging cable so you generously gave us three
bought the iphone that means you partially have it
after four hours in the hotel one was told one's parents and friends still
okay what kind of time did you get there at all
sometime in the afternoon I think [music]
what else happened that day we sat together yes we did
hugs each other and tries to talk about the matter everyone has their story
you can not imagine how glad will be that everyone lived and that yes
that was the theme also for the whole group there was
now no care or that someone with you there no so I know at some point that was
but quite late in the evening the subject of passports came up, so I know the subject of the press even came up
on the bed so on the safari boat on what took us in because we asked, of course, he has one
Captain has done nothing at least the box with the match
No, he didn't, so she stowed it all in the box that was with the captain
but then ID card copies licenses were left behind
tauplicences and the person
So we actually tried to become churches because we didn't like our passports that much
hand but insisted it's all safe the box was gone
that asks drive okay well then you have the night in
Hotel spent uh right after the hotel would be so I know Mike the so
really had reached someone in the embassy, but now not from the
We were given a few details at the passport office and the others didn't have any
reached the next morning, the first thing we tried was to contact the embassies
because we still thought the next thing to happen is the flight home we want to go and
and above all, we want to get away from this hotel. Support from the organizer at the
er, around noon we found out that if a four-star hotel was moved, we would have two editions
done the first is tonight we're gone and the second is we're staying together because there's no way we're dating
would have separated someone from the group, um yeah, and towards the afternoon they
Decision there are only four stars hotel and that was okay that would be
then dropped off then we had $50 each
Yes, get pocket money
and so we had to get by for a few days so we had to take taxis to
Paying police station shampoo is various things you need
a t-shirt for a change of underwear we should then make of it
Nobody helped us with the authorities that gave the timetable from the embassy in
In our case, the embassy did not have a branch in Hurghada, which means we had to go to Cairo and
until the evening before the day we started this trip
our level of knowledge we must with we each had somehow 30 40
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somehow we have to go after those 30 40 dollars
Driving to Cairo and then paying for your passport and having to come back would have been possible, but we tried that as a matter of principle hope
to plan and then also informed the contacts in the embassy and he always says
Yes, the tour operator has to pay for it, but we didn't have a contact person, so there was
She just didn't show anyone that anymore, so I have to say I have this taxi driver in the hotel
don't know if i saw him after that so i'm with the message like that
remained if I don't hear anything in the next 30 minutes we have to try this transport that was of course that
been the last taxi or on the bus or whatever, we have to organize this transport
But then, under pressure from the embassies, the tour operator organized something
So we got about 10 euros or 11 pocket money
more than the pocket money was and then pay somehow or pay the stamp
so you need a passport and you need a transfer of entry stamp from visa that was actually
even the harder task so we went to the embassy 6 hours before we had taken photos
We took photos and drove to the embassy, luckily we still had copies of our ID cards
so our old documents on my cell phone or I think online too anyway we had them and
could then get a temporary pass that was then closed
one return trip was suitable then came the more difficult task that was the office of Cairo
that cost us five hours here, fortunately we were able to
persuade a driver to translate
it seems to have worked in the end well anyway we kind of spent six or seven hours in Cairo
and then drove back to Hurghada with you because something remains
Crew also known how things went where they were, but there were also a wide variety of statements
the lie exposed any people captured if fired
So I don't know anything reliable, it was once said that the captain and two mechanics were arrested, that's true
I know so we didn't see the cow again we only had two the two divers as they
but we saw them on the first evening in the hotel and were really committed when we were glad that they were in life with them but also talked to them for a long time
otherwise I have not seen any of the cow, there was one with you
Insurance agent who was there or said that it is not insured
No, I don't mean that, but a representative of the insurance company through whom the ship was insured
we were told the ship is not insured okay
[Music] then you all tried so fast
as possible to get home i cant think what initially i would say i can just for
talk to me I've never said them either but I was incredibly happy to join the group
because even if we tell you this now, even if we tell it to our parents, friends and acquaintances
and you try your best you won't know how we felt that day and the people who were there
but our friends have and it has always worked out very well for me
directed to speak to people because they could relate to how I felt and vice versa as well
someone said it has a bit of the effect of Alcoholics Anonymous where everyone has the same problem
but have been able to understand what the problem of the other is
a lot of people might want to leave quickly, but in the end I think most of them were happy that we were like this as a group
were able to stay together for a long time because there was no help either there was no help from outside yes there will be none
does not examine for any bruises or injuries, nor mental
that people are now seeking treatment for, especially with postomatic stress disorder, it's very important that
it happens quickly the last ones just arrived today we arrived on saturday night that
means that would now be one of our next stations mike said the same thing he said
Opportunity to do something about his employer, yes, the other many are yesterday
what arrived I think that these are now the things that are starting are you the only three
German of the two okay and the others are somewhere abroad then exactly
Swiss many a lot from England Belgium one of their yes
I just think if they also need contact points, I also know networks that let us do something like that
In front of the area, however, if you need information there, I can definitely organize that tomorrow, so any help is there
welcome because we simply didn't get any help and that's why we're grateful for everything and if that continues
yes there was what that was two days before our departure
so probably on Thursday [music]
on wednesday
At the end someone came so we said we had to go with them
50 bucks, many really do, so many had included me
the clothes we were wearing when we jumped off the ship were on our bodies for three or four days before we went to bed
they went out washed with soap and put them back on the next morning [music]
at some point someone comes and there is pocket money, namely
50 euros or something like 50 60 euros
and we knew then we got together as a small family and
said what can we do, can we trust the thing or do we want to fool ourselves again
and then someone came, so to speak, my age, middle age, somewhere in the late 30s
and has posed as the company's general manager
so there were these envelopes and we had to sign some kind of list we said okay because of value on it
the pocket money is on it and that we downstairs we wrote down again that's no start and way
no compensation either for materials loss or for fully done
and this general manager then told us
I have to uh I'll talk to you in a moment I'll talk to each of you in a moment and we didn't let that happen so we said okay
thank you we will sign you that on further talked and then started a group
of people who we said can
efficient with speaking on behalf of the group ie representatives from the country there
plus people with special knowledge or yes, many strong characters
I would say we then spoke to this man and
said so now we want to clarify things we knew a few
We found a ticket in the room every day. You have to be out of the hotel by 12 p.m
People didn't even know their flights were canceled or even were
no longer feasible how do I get out of here without money how do I get to the photographer how to get
i go to the embassy how do i get to the police so we have a list
set up we said okay now we'll write down the points and you sign them for us at the top I know
point 1 and 2 was that nobody will be shot out of the hotel until we depart and we stay as a group
together yes exactly then we have defined that
necessary bookings for return flights and shutter trips from
Tour operator to be taken over and then it was all about the good Mrs. Simona
and who was previously known to us as general manager, it was said that was just that
I fired the marketing manager and that was a point 4 and 5
exactly point 545 we wrote down we will we want to know what to do with
our with our losses that with the damage we suffered and uh point 4 was we will make a list
set up per person what was lost and point 5 is then we want from you
know how you intend to pay and compensate the plan we made with five
People always signed it with seven of us and him, but we already noticed 7 people
could be a lot and he then said we'll do it the next day but I'll do it one on one
We told the people that we wouldn't allow it, there were always at least two of us
the two from this group of seven then we I don't know I was
one of the lucky ones who was always allowed to be there, so we chose that
I did that with Fernando and we have 7 in the morning
from 7 in the morning until sometime in the late afternoon sat there just roughly
get up write what he lost me what was my diving gear worth what was there which components had
did I have which electronic devices did I lose what follow-up costs will I incur because I need a new car key
Need a driver's license what did the trip cost? We would have liked to have been reimbursed for that
that in the end we have somewhere on the amount per person and then it is from him yes it comes
there are two lawyers on the way from us and they will then make a proposal to you
they came and we were suddenly sitting there with four lawyers or three or four lawyers and then it was yes
So we don't pay for flights and everything and you and we also had clothes that were far too expensive with you
pay you a maximum of 50% here that would be a position like I said that
didn't you bother you only ask us about material things what about
our investigations what about subsequent treatment yes so we have to do everything
pay from it so that would be one of those things that one would do
suggest the boat owner or that of the company
Yes, we said that's out of the question, there should be a meeting in a row, so we should do it again
get together they wanted to speak to the company again and never came back
okay that was the so that also affected a lot of people I have to say the the the nat

 

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natural
who lost the tools to work and after that nothing was paid anymore, exactly after they didn't
People showed up the next morning some had to go to the police because they also had a loss report
needed or a stamp fits then they were in the police station the taxes have been deducted
[music] because the question said the cold variety that no longer
so nothing more paid so yes
well you have now written the whole thing together again and have a campaign
launched where one can help you yes so some more some less
caught as far as loss is concerned, so I think the loss was very high for everyone
that itself probably better than us what diving equipment costs right now
when you're on the road professionally, things quickly come together, but we
we ourselves wondered what kind of values you take with you on holiday and so everyone has a bit of cash with them
cell phone, everyone may have a GoPro with them and to film the beautiful things under water and are fast
a few thousand together you also need a few clothes on your body and usually have documents with you and the suitcases
to also get a special suitcase and his things in it was a lot of money
for some I think it's just a lot easier to get that back and that's where I would count us now too
that we say okay and it hurts and we then give up the next vacation or maybe the next three but then we'll be back and we
we don't have to worry too much about it now, but we have people who don't know how they are anymore
should work and these are amounts so some people say that
don't understand but as a diving instructor you don't always earn
so good that they say I can just go to the bank and buy something with this equipment and continue working on something
it will be very difficult anyway, so I think it will be easy again
to dive carefree and to take responsibility
what that means that the one goal what what us but a lot
more important is what we experienced was really the worst experience at least in
our lives and if we can somehow prevent that from ever happening again
happens then we do that it's certainly complex lawyers
to bring together people from six countries and sue a company that operates on another continent
but we will do everything and there to experience justice and
make sure that never happens again because
you have to and we didn't do that, you shouldn't always google it, but of course if you do
If you are looking for your own case, then you might not see it so rarely or so improbably that what happens like
we thought Armin you also told me there was a comparable case last year
maybe worse maybe not but if we can help in any way
however and if it is only through enlightenment yes if only
Does that mean we recommend this company to all tour operators
find out or if it might actually work and that's our big hope for a lawsuit
get together then we want to try that, but for that we need the middle and the last thing is what we want
we want to go back to the point where we were two weeks ago want to dive again and that connects and
I've got goosebumps again, but we don't want to think about the day again underwater
always be paid by the insurance companies because we are dealing with six different countries
And the people couldn't be more different, so if from the waiter to the
Members of the EU parliament also have everything that doesn't make the group special
but that also means that not everyone is equally well secured and that's why we will help me okay
we link the campaign to the posts and hope that you can support each other, we'll see for ourselves
what we can do to help you and yes I would say let it
us here I recommend you that we have medical advice again
Philipp can then maybe help you again afterwards and yes, um, many
Thanks for all the information you have still met any questions
I think it would be very convenient if you could exchange contact details for a moment because I would then be at the company tomorrow
See if I can get in touch with the interest calls management who have
Psychologists are and the contract they are familiar with such post-traumatic stress disorders, I don't know where you are in Germany
but there will definitely be someone and then I'll try to activate that for you and that is
Get in touch quickly yes that would be that would be really nice thank you very much thank you very much
well then yes then I'll say a lot again first
Thanks for all the info
I think that will probably also involve a bit of rethinking
that you might look a little more intensely at everything when you
a daughter drives a ship Bay that you might ask a little bit differently, especially when it comes to safety
board that you might look a bit better when you walk somewhere on the boat and
uhm yes that something like that just won't happen anymore in the future I think that is
um, the greatest wish of all and we're all trying to work on that
that everything just becomes a bit safer or safer, in any case, thank you

 

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natural
who lost the tools to work and after that nothing was paid anymore, exactly after they didn't
People showed up the next morning some had to go to the police because they also had a loss report
needed or a stamp fits then they were in the police station the taxes have been deducted
[music] because the question said the cold variety that no longer
so nothing more paid so yes
well you have now written the whole thing together again and have a campaign
launched where one can help you yes so some more some less
caught as far as loss is concerned, so I think the loss was very high for everyone
that itself probably better than us what diving equipment costs right now
when you're on the road professionally, things quickly come together, but we
we ourselves wondered what kind of values you take with you on holiday and so everyone has a bit of cash with them
cell phone, everyone may have a GoPro with them and to film the beautiful things under water and are fast
a few thousand together you also need a few clothes on your body and usually have documents with you and the suitcases
to also get a special suitcase and his things in it was a lot of money
for some I think it's just a lot easier to get that back and that's where I would count us now too
that we say okay and it hurts and we then give up the next vacation or maybe the next three but then we'll be back and we
we don't have to worry too much about it now, but we have people who don't know how they are anymore
should work and these are amounts so some people say that
don't understand but as a diving instructor you don't always earn
so good that they say I can just go to the bank and buy something with this equipment and continue working on something
it will be very difficult anyway, so I think it will be easy again
to dive carefree and to take responsibility
what that means that the one goal what what us but a lot
more important is what we experienced was really the worst experience at least in
our lives and if we can somehow prevent that from ever happening again
happens then we do that it's certainly complex lawyers
to bring together people from six countries and sue a company that operates on another continent
but we will do everything and there to experience justice and
make sure that never happens again because
you have to and we didn't do that, you shouldn't always google it, but of course if you do
If you are looking for your own case, then you might not see it so rarely or so improbably that what happens like
we thought Armin you also told me there was a comparable case last year
maybe worse maybe not but if we can help in any way
however and if it is only through enlightenment yes if only
Does that mean we recommend this company to all tour operators
find out or if it might actually work and that's our big hope for a lawsuit
get together then we want to try that, but for that we need the middle and the last thing is what we want
we want to go back to the point where we were two weeks ago want to dive again and that connects and
I've got goosebumps again, but we don't want to think about the day again underwater
always be paid by the insurance companies because we are dealing with six different countries
And the people couldn't be more different, so if from the waiter to the
Members of the EU parliament also have everything that doesn't make the group special
but that also means that not everyone is equally well secured and that's why we will help me okay
we link the campaign to the posts and hope that you can support each other, we'll see for ourselves
what we can do to help you and yes I would say let it
us here I recommend you that we have medical advice again
Philipp can then maybe help you again afterwards and yes, um, many
Thanks for all the information you have still met any questions
I think it would be very convenient if you could exchange contact details for a moment because I would then be at the company tomorrow
See if I can get in touch with the interest calls management who have
Psychologists are and the contract they are familiar with such post-traumatic stress disorders, I don't know where you are in Germany
but there will definitely be someone and then I'll try to activate that for you and that is
Get in touch quickly yes that would be that would be really nice thank you very much thank you very much
well then yes then I'll say a lot again first
Thanks for all the info
I think that will probably also involve a bit of rethinking
that you might look a little more intensely at everything when you
a daughter drives a ship Bay that you might ask a little bit differently, especially when it comes to safety
board that you might look a bit better when you walk somewhere on the boat and
uhm yes that something like that just won't happen anymore in the future I think that is
um, the greatest wish of all and we're all trying to work on that
that everything just becomes a bit safer or safer, in any case, thank you

And the brief to the point executive summary is??

 

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@chillyinCanada, long video, I quickly fast forwarded but to answer your questions, passports were collected by the captain and stored in a box Captain left the boat without saving the box. They were told that boat had no insurance and they should sort it out with their personal insurance.
I really would like to shake the hand of the instructor who risked his life and helped the father and son to escape and also manage to escape him self.

 

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And the brief to the point executive summary is??

Boat went down, all safe and alive but traumatized. There were some injuries, some people got stitches. Boat did not have insurance. The root cause is still unknown but my understanding is it has listed to both sides in turn, not to a single side. There was only 1 raft launched, some of the guests thus remained on the listing boat as they felt it was feeling safer. Guests were not impressed with anything related to safety by the crew (or the organize) prior to incident as well as later. They were saved by another Lob which had a doctor on boat. They were later taken to Hurghada by speed boat and then travelled to Cairo for getting travel documents.

 

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And here the link to the G-Translated fundraiser page with some details and summary >>> click on "read more" above the video