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Back in 2015 I was playing with my first-gen NLL (the one with the VHF marine radio for talking to your boat). I had an MMSI I had gotten from BoatUS, and sent this question to BoatUS:
"How do I get my MMSI registration #(redacted) into the ITU Search and Rescue Database?"
I received this response:
"Please be aware that due to changes in our agreement with the Coast Guard and FCC, BoatUS will not be issuing new MMSIs for Nautilus Dive radios. BoatUS is authorized to provide MMSIs for radios aboard vessels that are not required to carry a VHF under FCC regulations and that will communicate only with U.S. stations. Dive radios do not qualify because they are not associated with any vessel and generally purchased to be used internationally.

"Your existing Dive Radio MMSI registration will not be affected by this change. It will remain in force in the BoatUS and Coast Guard database, and must continue to accurately reflect your current information:

Address and phone numbers
Emergency contacts ashore
Identifying characteristics of boat (length, hull type, color or things that may differentiate it from vessels nearby)
1.If you no longer own the registered dive radio, please login and cancel your MMSI account.
2.If you will be using the radio in International waters, please be aware that the registration is not in the International ITU Search and Rescue Database and would not be accessible to international search and rescue authorities. It resides in the U.S. Coast Guard Database.


"To View or Edit your registration go to BoatUS.com/MMSI and login. If you do not have your MMSI login and password, retrieve them from the database at: BoatUS.com/MMSI/Main.asp?Action=EmailPassword

"BoatUS provides MMSI registration, in accordance with guidelines from the Federal Communications Commission and the U.S. Coast Guard, as a service to the boating community."
Since one issue seemed to be that a specific ship had to be associated with an MMSI, I sent a furter quesry as follows:
"I am actually FCC-licensed (redacted) for portable use of VHF/FM 156-158 MHz, and SSB radiotelephone 1600-27500 kHz, on any U.S-flagged ship. Does this make a difference?"
The response was:
"Unfortunately there is no U.S. or Foreign agency that can currently issue an MMSI for International use with a Dive radio. Marine MMSI are coded for vessels licensed by rule and are not authorized for use in a radio that is not vessel related. Dive radios with DSC came into the market requiring an MMSI without the manufacturer having followed the proper course to make sure there was a source for those MMSI to be assigned. Unfortunately it will be up to the dive radio manufacturers to follow-up with the proper authorities to initiate and create an appropriately designated MMSI for this type of radio. Until that happens, there is not much that can be done.
"BoatU.S. originally offered a solution for Dive radios being used in U.S. waters only, but we have found that the majority of these radios are in fact being used internationally; therefore we can no longer offer this option. Keep in mind the radio will work and the DSC feature is enabled with its existing MMSI, the problem is that while you are in international waters, any search and rescue will not be able to look you up in the ITU database and they will be looking for a boat, not an individual diver. You will still be able to contact whatever vessel you are diving from so long as the vessel has DSC and it has been enabled."
So, I conclude the original NLL will work fine with your liveaboard dive boat, and you can even talk to them and say you are fine but please hurry, however general off-shore use is fraught.

A better solution is the current and "next-gen" NLL (without the VHF Marine radio embedded) that has the MMSI of the boat you are on, and sends both an AIS and DSC signal if your are in distress. But you can't talk to anyone to help sort things out. For this reason, you could always carry an additional VHF Marine radio in a canister. And in another canister you can have your PLB to send a distress call via satellite. Or carry an InReach to also use a satellite but use private S&R systems (and pay) rather than the government-run systems.
 
I just sent my Marine Rescue GPS (MRG, Nautilus Lifeline generation 2) over to Nautilus Lifeline (RMA) in Richmond, BC, Canada via USPS.com that costs me $32.20. Assuming shipping cost via Canadian mail is the same as that of US mail, the total cost for trading in my old good working MRG with the new Nautilus Lifeline nexGen would be $199.40 ($135 + 2x$32.20). In the end it’s not worth it to trade-in my good working MRG with Nautilus Lifeline nexGen. I might as well just buy Nautilus Lifeline nexGen and keep my good working MRG as a back up to the new Nautilus Lifeline nexGen.

Update:
Just got a reply from Nautilus. Their shipping cost is $10. So, I save $22 for the exchange.
 
I think it would be just as sensible to carry a small cylinder of He and fill up a balloon to take the NLL to a really good height....
Interesting idea, if you’re serious. Provided one had a balloon large enough to lift the unit, enough helium to fill it, a way to fix the unit to the balloon, and a long tether that was secure enough on both ends to keep the balloon and the unit from floating off to Antártica. ;-)
 
Interesting idea, if you’re serious. Provided one had a balloon large enough to lift the unit, enough helium to fill it, a way to fix the unit to the balloon, and a long tether that was secure enough on both ends to keep the balloon and the unit from floating off to Antártica. ;-)
Just dive 10/70 on every dive and you won't have to carry the extra cylinder.
 
I just got my replacement Nautilus Lifeline in the mail. I had lost my previous unit on a dive in Bonaire in January, when it floated out of my BCD pocket. (The Lifelines are positively buoyant, and I didn't realize that until after my dive. I am going to tether my replacement unit to my BCD from now on.) I tried to talk Nautilus into giving me the trade-in rates for units "in any condition" by arguing that my unit had been lost at sea, but they said that their "any condition" trade-in offer did not extend to "an empty box." Which I guess is fair enough. :)
 
nope. it's mine. registered to my mmsi. New battery and it's working great. It's a keeper.
For diving without a Charter Boat Dive Boat with MMSI, or a small boat that is anchored but no VHF Marine Radio with DSC, is there any use of this device, like there is with a PLB?

I mean, can the Nautilus Lifeline alert to USCG in United States?

Also, somewhat pertaining to Nautilus Lifeline device.

Is it true that DSC, in some cases have an alert go to any boats VHF Marine Radio if plugged in, and then be automatically re-transmitted to another and another, till it reaches the intended MMSI's Radio?
 
Man, they sure are slow in responding to my order. It took 3 weeks to get a reply from them that they received my Marine Rescue GPS.

July 26
I just sent my Marine Rescue GPS (MRG, Nautilus Lifeline generation 2) over to Nautilus Lifeline (RMA) in Richmond, BC, Canada via USPS.com that costs me $32.20. Assuming shipping cost via Canadian mail is the same as that of US mail, the total cost for trading in my old good working MRG with the new Nautilus Lifeline nexGen would be $199.40 ($135 + 2x$32.20). In the end it’s not worth it to trade-in my good working MRG with Nautilus Lifeline nexGen. I might as well just buy Nautilus Lifeline nexGen and keep my good working MRG as a back up to the new Nautilus Lifeline nexGen.

August 17
Update:
Just got a reply from Nautilus. Their shipping cost is $10. So, I save $22 for the exchange.
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Then another month to get this email reply:

September 17

“This email confirms that your order was received at Nautilus Marine Rescue GPS Shop. You will receive an additional email once your order is shipped. Contact us if you have any questions about your order.

Thanks for using Nautilus Marine Rescue GPS Shop.​

Order Information​



Order number: AB-5711
Order Date: 9/17/2024”​

So, today October 11, I sent them another email to inquire the status of my order (11 weeks after I sent my old one to them on July 26). This is their reply:

“Thank you for your email.

Our office will be closed for the Thanksgiving holiday on Monday, Oct. 14

I will reply to your email as soon as possible when we return on Tuesday.”

I’m going to Antarctica in 2 weeks. They better deliver it before then. 🤬
 

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