Stuck on bc choice

[Ontwreckdiver]

Warm water only, mostly travel, BP wing config. Adjustable shoulder straps.
I’m stuck between the XDeep Zen and the Hollis ST elite. I’ve done tons of reading and get nowhere. Leaning to the Zen but dam, I’ll never need 40lbs of lift.
Im done with cold wafter, have no interest in tech that involves overhead environments.

Any new info from users would be much appreciated.

I highly recommend you look at the Sub Gravity Paragon single tank package. You have a choice of 3 stainless steel or 2 aluminum backplates, 4 wing sizes, 3 weight pocket sizes and 2 harness types. Their wings don't require a single tank adapter.
I have their 3 mm aluminum backplate, 26 lb wing and adjustable harness for down south diving. I love their adjustable harness, it's clean and simple and no plastic parts.

Paragon Single Tank Package - SubGravity

We understand what the active diver needs from a single tank rig. Simple, streamlined, balanced, and easy to travel. We built the Paragon single tank package to offer a modular and customizable BCD to best suit single tank diving needs. At the heart of the Paragon Single Tank Package is the...

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[scubadada]

I dive with 3 or 4 kgs, you can't insert the weights without taking the Outlaw off unless you get someone else to do it for you. When diving from a RHIB I never take the weights out, in fact never take the weights no matter what boat I am using.

Just back from 25 dives in Thailand using a mix of RHIBs and larger dive boats and don think I once passed the weights up nor had to take the outlaw off before getting in the boat

Thanks. I was not able to reinsert the weight pockets myself in the water. Regarding removing your weights and BC prior to boarding, that was the accepted process for me in the Red Sea, Cocos, Galapagos, Revillagigidos, and Malpelo. I was wondering how easy this would be with the Outlaw, I have not tried it, as electively. I would not be able to reinsert them. I do most of my diving solo.

 

[lexvil]

Thanks. Do you ever feel rolly with all the weight in the back?

Not at all

 

[BoltSnap]

I highly recommend you look at the Sub Gravity Paragon single tank package. You have a choice of 3 stainless steel or 2 aluminum backplates, 4 wing sizes, 3 weight pocket sizes and 2 harness types. Their wings don't require a single tank adapter.
I have their 3 mm aluminum backplate, 26 lb wing and adjustable harness for down south diving. I love their adjustable harness, it's clean and simple and no plastic parts.

Paragon Single Tank Package - SubGravity

We understand what the active diver needs from a single tank rig. Simple, streamlined, balanced, and easy to travel. We built the Paragon single tank package to offer a modular and customizable BCD to best suit single tank diving needs. At the heart of the Paragon Single Tank Package is the...

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Is "paragon" a brand owned by Sub Gravity or a company on its own?

 

[JMcKay]

I highly recommend you look at the Sub Gravity Paragon single tank package. You have a choice of 3 stainless steel or 2 aluminum backplates, 4 wing sizes, 3 weight pocket sizes and 2 harness types. Their wings don't require a single tank adapter.
I have their 3 mm aluminum backplate, 26 lb wing and adjustable harness for down south diving. I love their adjustable harness, it's clean and simple and no plastic parts.

Paragon Single Tank Package - SubGravity

We understand what the active diver needs from a single tank rig. Simple, streamlined, balanced, and easy to travel. We built the Paragon single tank package to offer a modular and customizable BCD to best suit single tank diving needs. At the heart of the Paragon Single Tank Package is the...

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New one for me to look over, thanks!

 

[Shabaday]

Any issue with the butt dump being out there on the side? Can you reach it easily? I like the ghost except for that and the bag and shell being one piece. Small issues I’m sure but real world experience could change my mind

NO but I did add an extension dump handle from DGX

 

[noserider]

Thanks. I was not able to reinsert the weight pockets myself in the water. Regarding removing your weights and BC prior to boarding, that was the accepted process for me in the Red Sea, Cocos, Galapagos, Revillagigidos, and Malpelo. I was wondering how easy this would be with the Outlaw, I have not tried it, as electively. I would not be able to reinsert them. I do most of my diving solo.

Getting the weight pockets out is easy and taking the bcd off is also easy, particularly if you undo a clip on one of the shoulder straps

 

[Ontwreckdiver]

Is "paragon" a brand owned by Sub Gravity or a company on its own?

It's a Sub Gravity BP/W , it's just a name they give to their system.

 

[JMcKay]

After much looking and reading we went with the HoG TBCS for a couple reasons. The Xdeep is just too expensive and that plate is going to swallow my little wife. The Sub-gravity went straight to the top of my list after a recommendation but fell off due to the lack of pivoting shoulder harness and chest strap, my wife is well endowed and she is going to need something to keep the straps across her and not get sucked under her arm pits. The Hog checked all the boxes and some I wasn’t looking for, I’ve got 60 days for return on it so we shall see how it goes.
Many thanks for all the input here.

 

[Finsdeep]

Everyone is different when it comes to diving. There are great options for everyone. Check them all out. I absolutely love the Hydros Pro. It is very comfortable and it just works for my mission. Many people who dive them will say "Just get it." However you do have those who do not like it and had problems. I get it. There is always bad with good. IMHO the pros outweigh the cons. Just one divers thoughts.