"Right to Repair" - Potentially great news for DIY!

[Eric Sedletzky]

This whole thing of not selling service kits to the end consumer has more to do with supporting shops by the manufacturer then it has to do with liability for selling parts to individuals.
Scubapro for instance markets itself to dive shops as the premier professional regulator and equipment manufacturer. By those shops carrying their products they are insured that they would be selling the best gear on Earth. They will be entering into a business relationship where the shop would be awarded the title of “Authorized Dealer”and supported by the manufacturer including getting all the service work and by doing FPFL which is a guarantee for the dive shop of a continuous revenue stream. This exclusivity is very attractive for dive shops, to carry a high end product that can only be serviced by them or another “authorized” dealer, and has a time pressure incentive built in to have the unit brought in and serviced or the free parts deal ends.
It’s actually more about marketing to the dive shop than it is to the end consumer.

If it was all about safety and liability, then the manufacturer would have no problem offering service classes to the general public and selling them parts once they are factory certified. The manufacturer would actually make more money selling those classes and parts, but they won’t, and it’s because they are protecting their investment with their retailers and do not want to undermine that relationship.

There are incompetent shop techs out there and there are incompetent DIY’ers out there. If everyone was allowed to take the factory service classes there would be fewer incompetent DIY’ers, but there would still be the same amount of incompetent dive shop techs.
Think about that.

 

[Jcp2]

way to just stick your fingers in your ear and yell "lalalalalala im not listening lalalalalala"

if you had a meaningful response to anything i just wrote, you would have done so....you can go back to being irrelevant now.

From your own "reference".

Hot Coffee documentary[edit]
Main article: Hot Coffee (film)
On June 27, 2011, HBO premiered a documentary about tort reform problems titled Hot Coffee. A large portion of the film covered Liebeck's lawsuit. This included news clips, comments from celebrities and politicians about the case, as well as myths and misconceptions, including how many people thought she was driving when the incident occurred and thought that she suffered only minor superficial burns.

The film also discussed in great depth how Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants is often used and misused to describe a frivolous lawsuit and referenced in conjunction with tort reform efforts.[8] It contends that corporations have spent millions promoting misconceptions of tort cases in order to promote tort reform. In reality, the majority of damages in the case were punitive due to McDonald's' reckless disregard for the number of burn victims prior to Liebeck.[9]

The New York Times Retro Report[edit]
On October 21, 2013, The New York Times published a Retro Report video about the media reaction and an accompanying article about the changes in coffee drinking over 20 years.[40][41] The New York Times noted how the details of Liebeck's story lost length and context as it was reported worldwide.[40] The report underscored that the narrative of the story was distorted in the media, in which the "condensed telling of the story created its own version of the truth" where McDonald's rather than Liebeck was portrayed as the victim.[42]

 

[lexvil]

Roosevet Toyota is not Toyota Corporate...they are affiliated, but still regarded as a 3rd party legally speaking

and even they still sneak in this bit of small print to CYA:

The Toyota Genuine Accessory Warranty will only apply when the installation is performed by a trained Toyota-approved installer. Please see your participating Toyota dealer for details.

Because Toyota doesn’t have a storefront, yet they don’t prohibit selling of genuine Toyota parts, right to repair would actually offer greater protection if they were to sell to anyone with the same caveat.

 

[M-Cameron]

Again.....McDonalds cannot hand you a cup of coffee without you hurting yourself with it and blaming McDonalds....

...and yet you expect scubapro to sell you maintenance kits for lifesaving equipment?.....

You can't even handle hot coffee without hurting yourself.....you need warning labels telling you not to put babies in the microwave....you need to be told knives are sharp.

But god forbid they don't put a warning label on it....or hand you a cup of hot coffee....it's the companies fault.

And you wonder why they won't sell you a service kit?


Christ, we should be thankful they sell us regulators at all

It's a shame people lack common sense, and need everything dumbed down and bubble wrapped for them.....and if they hurt themselves, it's always someone else's fault.

 

[lexvil]

Legal Myths: The McDonald's "Hot Coffee" Case - Public Citizen

 

[BoltSnap]

you need warning labels telling you not to put babies in the microwave.

You can't???? OMG, what about wet kittens after they had a bath?

 

[lexvil]

You can't???? OMG, what about wet kittens after they had a bath?

Don’t be silly, everyone knows you put wet babies and kittens in the dryer, the microwave is only to defrost them!

 

[rhwestfall]

So, why can I go to a car dealership, and get parts from the parts department for my vehicle? All it takes is money....

 

[BRT]

are you buying repair parts and getting how-to manuals right from Ford/Toyota/Honda corporate? ...or are you buying them from a 3rd party source?

i am pretty sure in the manual of every car sold in the last 30 years, its states somewhere in there to "have your car serviced by a licensed technician"....

they do that because if you hash it up and crash, Ford can say "well we told you not to service it yourself".....its about the onus of responsibility.

also, you wouldnt hold someone else responsible for your screw up....likely because you are a decent person....and not an ambulance chaser.

people will sue for any and all reasons.....lest we forget the woman who was awarded $2.7Mil because she spilled hot coffee on herself.
Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants - Wikipedia


regarding the business practices of HOG and Deep6.....thats a business decision they came to, and youd have to ask them for their motives...but im guessing they did a risk-reward analysis, and determined that they usually sell to more "tech" minded divers, who are generally more competent than your average diver, and their chances of being sued were relatively low, while their chances of losing sales if they didnt offer service kits was relatively high.

but does it make sense for Aqualung to sell service kits to some holiday diver whos never turned a wrench in their lives?.....i sure as hell wouldnt....

im not saying you shouldnt service your own gear, or do your own repair work on your cars......im saying, from a manufacturer perspective, there is generally little incentive to help you with that, and higher risk than if they just tell you to "have it serviced by a licensed technician"

"According to the Magnuson-Moss Act, a vehicle manufacturer cannot automatically cancel your warranty just because you’ve installed aftermarket car parts. This is an illegal practice. That said, if your aftermarket part somehow causes or contributes to a failure in your vehicle, the dealer may be able to deny your warranty claim—as long as they can prove the connection. In these cases, the burden of proof is entirely on the dealership."

 

[M-Cameron]

"According to the Magnuson-Moss Act, a vehicle manufacturer cannot automatically cancel your warranty just because you’ve installed aftermarket car parts. This is an illegal practice. That said, if your aftermarket part somehow causes or contributes to a failure in your vehicle, the dealer may be able to deny your warranty claim—as long as they can prove the connection. In these cases, the burden of proof is entirely on the dealership."

you are still failing to understand why they put that wording in there....and at this point, i cannot explain it to you any simpler....

rest assured, your warranty is safe.