Question Venting/Frustrated/Advice Needed

[Zef]

Here are manuals.

Cool...can you post the 2nd stage manuals too?

-Z

 

[tbriglia]

The issue in this thread is not "trade secrets", it is percieved/actuall liability on behalf of Edge-HOG. They have a very strict stance on who they will allow access to the service manuals for their reg sets, and who they will sell replacement parts to....From personal phone conversations with Edge-Hog/Divers Supply, they are bound by what their insurance will permit or jeopordize their business liability coverage. They have approval from their insurance to share the service manuals and sell spare parts to individuals who take their/TDI service course.

In the past service kits for HOG regulators were available to the public for purchase...just not through Edge-HOG/Divers Supply, and Edge-HOG did not regulate their retailers ability to sell these kits. To my limited knowledge, replacement parts outside the scope of the service kits and screw-on yoke adapters, have pretty much always fallen under their stricter guidelines.

While the OP found and posted an alternative resolution to his dilema, the "trade secrets" you elude to are not tremendously difficult to find. It really comes down to the following torque specs:

HOG D3 DIN inlet fitting: 225 lbs-inch
HOG D3 DIN locking screw: 150 lbs-inch

As stated, the issue is not the info, as it is entirely useless since the OP could not obtain the parts to make the conversion. This is where the "right to repair" comments entered the conversation.

You are correct though, that adding an adapter that extends a torque wrench changes the amount of torque it will deliver compared to the value it is set at.

-Z

There is a lot of CYA that I notice in the dive industry and that is due liability and responsibility. The aviation industry is no stranger to this action. I retired from aviation after 25 years and the changes to the rules over that period of time were mind boggling! The dive industry is actually no different and is vulnerable to similar claims. We can thank lawyers and insurance companies for that ! Hence the liability waiver some places require you to sign. I think it really stinks that manufacturers won’t sell you parts to rebuild or repair your equipment you just paid thousands of dollars for. I feel as long as you can demonstrate the knowledge base to repair and service them then you should be able to purchase parts.

 

[tbriglia]

This has the Classic included:

There is a gentleman on Scubaboard who is one of the "Usual Suspects" in the Regulator Forum who often gives an online service course that is well worth the little bit of money and time. I had a fairly large collection of manuals already but many are included with the course. Not saying what came from where, as I said, I had manuals long before I took this course, pirated, given, maybe even five finger borrowed. I took the course mostly just for the fun of it. And, I did learn some new and valuable things and got to see other participants with regulators I have never had the opportunity to work on. Worth it for sure.

I need that guy.