"Right to Repair" - Potentially great news for DIY!

[Manatee Diver]

way to just stick your fingers in your ear and yell "lalalalalala im not listening lalalalalala"

I'm not here to argue the details of the case, it is laid out quite well in your own link to Wikipedia.

The lack of right to repair is no longer about liability, but over control of the consumers. If we can't repair or modify what we own, then do we really even own it? Look at the those expensive treadmills, they shut off your ability to use it as a basic treadmill without a subscription.

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

if you go into a restaurant, and grab one of the steak knives by the blade, is the restaurant at fault for not telling you knives are sharp? do they have to tell you every warning of ever possible thing that can happen to you in their restaurant?.....or should they assume you have some level of common sense?
this is reinforcing my point.....people are stupid....and when stupid people do stupid things (like pouring hot coffee on their laps)...they hold everyone else responsible except for themselves.

the coffee they served was at "industry standards" for temperature.....and many restaurants were serving coffee at the same temp, or hotter...but somehow, its their fault some lady tried to hold coffee in her lap and it spilled.

you can get 3rd degree burns from liquid in 1 second at 156 degrees.....so even the coldest coffee on the market would have caused her 3rd degree burns.

this is why companies treat us like morons, and try to prevent us from doing moron things.....and when they cant prevent morons from being morons, they put warning labels on everything and refuse to sell you service kits.


you cant have your cake and eat it too.....you cant blame companies for your screw ups....then expect them to help you make even more screw ups.

If McDonald's followed health department regulations, thr woman would not have not been burned. 140 degrees btw

If...

 

[M-Cameron]

I'm not here to argue the details of the case, it is laid out quite well in your own link to Wikipedia.

The lack of right to repair is no longer about liability, but over control of the consumers. If we can't repair or modify what we own, then do we really even own it? Look at the those expensive treadmills, they shut off your ability to use it as a basic treadmill without a subscription.

no one is stopping you from repairing your own equipment...but you do not have any right to force a manufacturer to sell you something, at least in America, we have a free market.....if i dont want to sell a product, i dont have to.

if a 3rd part wants to put together service kits, all the more power to them.....hell, track down the parts individually on your own and put together your own service kits.

regarding fancy tredmills.....if you dont like the product they are selling....dont buy it....simple as that, you do not have a right to a fancy tredmill, or a right to tell a company how to run its business.....vote with your money.

hell, there are plenty of products ive wanted to buy, that a company wouldnt sell me.....so i made my own.....problem solved, the company lost out on a sale, and i got the product i wanted.....free market at work.

 

[M-Cameron]

If McDonald's followed health department regulations, thr woman would not have not been burned. 140 degrees btw

If...

unfortunately, to make coffee, you cant brew it at 140 degrees......try not being a moron and pouring hot coffee all over your self and you also wont get burned.

again, you cant have your cake and eat it to.....

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

I want a cup of coffee now.

 

[Manatee Diver]

no one is stopping you from repairing your own equipment...but you do not have any right to force a manufacturer to sell you something, at least in America, we have a free market.....if i dont want to sell a product, i dont have to.

It is literally illegal to repair some products, as repairing them requires breaking encryption. Which under the DMCA, unless it is a specifically granted exemption it is illegal to circumvent encryption.

Now if you do it on your own, no one is likely to come after you. But if you distribute instructions to do so, the companies use DMCA to shut you down.

And free market doesn't mean corporations get to do whatever they want. It is perfectly reasonable to apply restrictions. That is why you can do an oil change, or even take it to a third party repair shop without violating your warranty.

The ODB scanner you use on a car, legally mandated by Congress. There are numerous examples where Congress steps in when corporations go too far. And requiring access to parts, and repair manuals is perfectly reasonable.

 

[M-Cameron]

It is literally illegal to repair some products, as repairing them requires breaking encryption. Which under the DMCA, unless it is a specifically granted exemption it is illegal to circumvent encryption.

and that has what to do with service kits?

talking about "right to repair" automobiles by relying on ECU codes is a completely different story that requiring scubapro to sell you a service kit for their regulators.

 

[BoltSnap]

I want a cup of coffee now.

Boiling Hot or ice cold?

 

[M-Cameron]

Boiling Hot or ice cold?

well if they restaurant complies with health department guidelines, hes going to get a nice luke warm 90 degree cup of coffee so its impossible for him to burn himself with it.

 

[BoltSnap]

well if they restaurant complies with health department guidelines, hes going to get a nice luke warm 90 degree cup of coffee so its impossible for him to burn himself with it.

But tastes like piss...