DIR backup reg necklace - Austin area question

[ZzzKing]

Wow, is this about neckless's?
Man....I just buy that Manta one..
Its black, so it must be DIR or UDT...
It's about the right length, lasts a long time, easy to replace, and
you can rip it right off....

Yeah, I have one of those and used it for about e year. After a while it started bugging me because it was so big in diameter that my mouthpiece didn't sit right when it was in my mouth so I went back to bungee.

 

[imasinker]

WOW only two pages before this became a DIR/GUE/Who/the/hell/cares thread.

LOL......
I use surgical tubing, doesn't get caught under the back of the hood, I can grab it easy with one hand (drygloves) and although some say it dry rots faster than bungee, for 1.00 a foot I can afford to replace 2.00 worth each year when I do my spring equipment check up. Home Depot has it all the time.

Then again I am always different.

 

[k-valve]

I'm not being defensive at all. I could care less what you think...

Wait! I take it back!! DIR divers do have a sense of humor!!

If you didn't care what I think then you wouldn't be all fired up over nothing.

I think what aggravates you and your compatriots is when other folks let you know that they don't care what you think and don't buy into the DIR philosophy 100% If you want the rest of the diving community to stop discounting you then ya'll need to settle down and stop being so defensive anytime someone makes a little joke.

I feel that quote provides proper credit, where credit is due. Do you? I have never read anything from the "DIR leadership" that would suggest otherwise. Could you provide that information?

Try rereading my post. I agreed that it was one of the few instances I've seen credit given. I think I even thanked you for it.

As coldsmoke/Hunter pointed out, DIR goes beyond just gear configuration. Many people focus on gear, but in all reality, that's not wear the strengths of where DIR lie.

Huh? What? Is that more DIR double speak or just poor grammar? :shocked2:

It's more of a philosophy of team work, situational awareness, standardized protocols (but not to a point were people are mindless drones as some people would have you believe), and learning to analyze, think, and react as things happen. You could take the gear completely out of the loop and still achieve that.

...and yet the DIR forum focuses almost 100% on gear. Funny isn't it? Teamwork is so darned important yet it is hardly ever discussed in your own forum.

I hate to break it to you but there are plenty of other divers who do exactly what you referred to above and guess what? They are not DIR. You boys don't have a corner on that market. Ya'll just like to tell us you do. You see a couple of rec divers making a bad choice and think, "Poor, stupid, untrained divers...if only they had been DIR trained they would live longer." You don't find a whole lot of foolishness in the tech diving community regardless of their training agency. Those folks don't hang around long. The saying may be cliche, but it got to be that way for a reason..."There are old divers and bold divers, but no old, bold divers." DIR or otherwise.

A team of CCR divers out of San Diego have asked Andrew Georgitis to provide them with a "intro to tech" class that will allow them to better incorprorate the UTD/DIR philosophy into their diving. These guys are currently doing 300fsw dives off the coast pretty regularly.

Oh my, a GUE instructor teaching folks on CCR? That's not DIR! They're gonna die!!!!! :shocked2:

300' may seem deep to a DIR diver, but it's not. There are plenty of people who regularly dive beyond 300'. Come up with a better example. That might impress a few recreational divers, but not me. Besides, Georgitis sounds like a sexually transmitted disease.

 

[k-valve]

WOW only two pages before this became a DIR/GUE/Who/the/hell/cares thread.

LOL......

Heck that was slow for us...

 

[k-valve]

Yeah, I have one of those and used it for about e year. After a while it started bugging me because it was so big in diameter that my mouthpiece didn't sit right when it was in my mouth so I went back to bungee.

I know a lot of folks who like the manta necklace. I'm not one of them. I found them to be a little too short for my neck and the reg would pop out on occasion at inconvenient times. I still prefer surgical tubing zip tied to the reg. I can make it the length I like and I find the surgical tubing to be less abrasive than shock cord when I'm not wearing a hood...especially on long dives and on days when I'm diving a lot.

 

[vintagediver]

"Georgitis sounds like a sexually transmitted disease. "

Now....this thread is getting interesting.....

 

[imasinker]

Thats why some of us call ourselves techreational.....confuses the hell out of everyone...LOL

 

[texdiveguy]

Thats why some of us call ourselves techreational.....confuses the hell out of everyone...LOL

That is that silly term coined by Lynne....lol!

 

[k-valve]

I feel that quote provides proper credit, where credit is due. Do you? I have never read anything from the "DIR leadership" that would suggest otherwise. Could you provide that information?

Umm...sure can. Here's a page right from your beloved GUE website that talks about "DIR Equipment Configuration." Equipment Configuration | Global Underwater Explorers Guess what? No mention of Bill Main or Hogarthian gear configuration. It's DIR after all.

BTW, that took me about 30 seconds to find that article. I can find more if you'd like.

 

[amascuba]

Wait! I take it back!! DIR divers do have a sense of humor!!

If you didn't care what I think then you wouldn't be all fired up over nothing.

You're reading too much into what I'm saying. I'm not being defensive or fired up at all. Like I said, at the end of the day it's just diving. I'm not interested in getting into a "us vs them" conversation. It's fruitless. I was merely pointing out that the founders of DIR don't claim Hog as their own. I don't think you will find where they claim to have invented any of the gear configurations or even team procedures. All they've done was analyze what works, incorporate that into the diving, and refine as needed. Simple enough.

As far as the gear questions go on the DIR forum, most of the people asking the questions on gear configurations haven't even taken a GUE or DIR equivalent class. They are asking questions to learn and probably don't see the big picture when it comes to DIR. Then again some people have questions about a specific brand of gear.