Hey!! What happened to HUE!?

[k-valve]

Thanks for all the replies. I'll send you guys PM's.

K-valve, thanks for your feedback it has been noted. If I came across as rude, I apologize that was not my intend...as a matter of fact the only part that could be misconstrued as such was the "getting cavern trained in Lake Travis comment"..which, while partly an attempt at humor. Obviously....failed.

Shawn, thanks I'll keep your offer in mind next time I come down to TX to visit my family I would love to go dive with you. No, my name is not HUE I am just part of it.

Sherman

Dang it!!!! I hate sticking my foot in my mouth and having to apologize, but that's just what I did over in the DIR Forum just now. It turns out Sherman (aka HUE) isn't such a bad guy after all.

I'm not apologizing to you though Shawny.

 

[24940]

To give an example of strokery at its finest: some hard core DIR divers wouldn't dare dive with Zinc simply because he has yellow webbing on his plate instead of black. Some of them are that fanatical. He could have everything else perfectly DIR including training and there would be those who claimed that we was an unsafe diver because he wasn't "conforming to DIR standards."

Probably the greatest lines of spew in this entire thread.

It's crap like this that perpetuates the rift.

 

[chrispete]

Probably the greatest lines of spew in this entire thread.

It's crap like this that perpetuates the rift.

Just spewing back things I've been told by "DIR" divers personally. Whether you want to believe it or not, there are lots of GI3 clones running around grinding otherwise good divers under their heels. It takes two sides pulling to close a rift.

BTW: I was using an extreme, humorous example to make a point. Note the use of the words "some" instead of "all" and apparently you didn't read a word of the second paragraph.

 

[k-valve]

Probably the greatest lines of spew in this entire thread.

It's crap like this that perpetuates the rift.

No, I don't think so. It's posts and attitudes like yours, JeffG's, and Rainier's that cause most of the problem. Unfortunately, it all started with George Irvine and continues with the likes of you. Lose the chip on your shoulders and eventually the rift will diminish. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. The training encourages it and there are far too many JeffG's around to fan the flames.

 

[amascuba]

Actually I think rule #1 is :

"Dont dive with unsafe divers"

the alternative version is "Dont dive with strokes"

Non DIR does not equal unsafe,although I am sure some will disagree.

What it basically boils down to is on higher risk dives, do you want to be in the water with people who don't know how you're going to react when the poo hits the fan and vise versa?

I dive with people all the time who aren't trained by GUE or the DIR philosophy as a DM and just fun dives. When it comes to dives that are more serious in nature then the buddy pool narrows to the people I know and trust (DIR trained or not).

 

[amascuba]

No, I don't think so. It's posts and attitudes like yours, JeffG's, and Rainier's that cause most of the problem. Unfortunately, it all started with George Irvine and continues with the likes of you. Lose the chip on your shoulders and eventually the rift will diminish. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. The training encourages it and there are far too many JeffG's around to fan the flames.

JeffG is an aquired taste. He has a very dry sense of humor, which doesn't come off that great online, and he has his beliefs and is very straight forward with them rather than beating around the bush.

 

[chrispete]

When it comes to dives that are more serious in nature then the buddy pool narrows to the people I know and trust (DIR trained or not).

ding ding ding, We have a winner!

 

[amascuba]

No, I don't think so. It's posts and attitudes like yours, JeffG's, and Rainier's that cause most of the problem. Unfortunately, it all started with George Irvine and continues with the likes of you. Lose the chip on your shoulders and eventually the rift will diminish. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. The training encourages it and there are far too many JeffG's around to fan the flames.

I read HUE's post yesterday before it was yanked. I could see how people could take the cavern dive in lake travis the wrong way, but at that same time many of the same people were questioning the cavern course in lake travis when that was posted and IMHO it was a little hypocritical to turn around and troll him. It would have been more productive to ask for more specific information on what he was wanting rather than assuming (read ASS-U-ME).

 

[24940]

Guys, you might want to put things into perspective. I met a guy from Texas once. He went on about how great the state is and how much it sucked in OR. Every other line from him was about how they did it in Texas. He was a complete prick, so I guess everyone from Texas must be a prick, following the thinking I'm seeing in this thread.

As it turns out, the guy wasn't born in Texas. in fact, he only lived there for a short while. He wasn't really a Texan, I guess you could say.

DIR attracts a lot of wannabes and there are a lot of posers. Just because someone says they are DIR and have a BP/W and a long hose doesn't mean they are DIR. Anyone who claims color is a DIR issue is FOS and should be disregarded.

FWIW, I'm an OWI and that pretty much axes me as being DIR. I dive solo, but acknowledge the fact that this is less than ideal and agree with the DIR stance on solo. I also enjoy a few cigars a week and that would exclude me from being DIR, as well. I've yet to be excluded by DIR divers from any dive within my skill set.

As for fun, there are some that drill a bit excessively, but I can assure you DIR divers have lots of fun. Being in absolute control and in sync with a team opens up an entirely new set of options for diving. That's really what DIR is about to me: options.

 

[24940]

Just spewing back things I've been told by "DIR" divers personally. Whether you want to believe it or not, there are lots of GI3 clones running around grinding otherwise good divers under their heels. It takes two sides pulling to close a rift.

BTW: I was using an extreme, humorous example to make a point. Note the use of the words "some" instead of "all" and apparently you didn't read a word of the second paragraph.

I figure you are making this up to support your position or you have been exposed to some posers with fuxored priorities. I'd be interested in hearing more detail about the "DIR" divers you have been talking to, because the following statement reads like urban legend.

To give an example of strokery at its finest: some hard core DIR divers wouldn't dare dive with Zinc simply because he has yellow webbing on his plate instead of black.

As for the attempt at humor, I guess I missed that. I guess you have one more thing in common with HUE:

"getting cavern trained in Lake Travis comment"..which, while partly an attempt at humor. Obviously....failed.

No, I don't think so. It's posts and attitudes like yours, JeffG's, and Rainier's that cause most of the problem. Unfortunately, it all started with George Irvine and continues with the likes of you. Lose the chip on your shoulders and eventually the rift will diminish. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. The training encourages it and there are far too many JeffG's around to fan the flames.

Find out for yourself what DIR is all about and stop relying on hearsay and SB for your POV and I think you'll lose the chip on your shoulder or at least won't come across as being so ignorant on the topic. I wanted to know more and took training. I know what I'm speaking of first hand, do you? You speak as though you think you do, but stating that training encourages this rift is just not true.

Funny to me that you would call me out on attitude while using phrases like "the likes of you" .