Why the Prejudice about DIR or GUE

[TheRedHead]

I think Lamont said he failed to put the bungee around his neck, but that would become quickly apparent during the S-drill.

Steve, I don't understand why the DM didn't remove the bungee from around the diver's neck before removing his rig?

 

[Dan Gibson]

It's kind of like leaving the weight belt in place while removing the victims BC first, huh?

Sounds like some people need to practice and/or revise their rescue techniques.

Steve, I don't understand why the DM didn't remove the bungee from around the diver's neck before removing his rig?

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

It's kind of like leaving the weight belt in place while removing the victims BC first, huh?

Almost saw that happen once when a well-meaning boat crew attempted to "rescue" a new diver at a local underwater park.

Not a pretty thought ... fortunately, another diver came along and stopped them before they succeeded ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[The Horn]

How do you get just a "provisional certification" isn't it a pass or fail type thing Are you not certified DIR......or is there a waiting period while your hose is being stretched to 7 feet?

Also, my hose is 7 foot 1 inch, not bragging or anything so I guess I'm way ahead of the game................

 

[Dan Gibson]

I guess that why we practice this stuff. We certainly don't want to react and do something to make the situation worse.

Almost saw that happen once when a well-meaning boat crew attempted to "rescue" a new diver at a local underwater park.

Not a pretty thought ... fortunately, another diver came along and stopped them before they succeeded ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[Meng_Tze]

If the NAUI or PADI diver has put enough thought into what he or she is doing to be regarded as a safe diver, then chances are pretty high that they've paid attention to their training and follow the protocols. It also tells me that person is open to learning something new.

You can teach someone better skills ... but attitude comes with the diver, and is not specific to any training agency.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

It depends what each of us consider 'safe' and yes, I agree with the last statement... it does come with the individual, not the agency. But if an agency historically had some highly visible individuals protrude arrogant statements, authoritatiran (maybe totalitarian) views and you couple that with impressionalbe individuals (I have no other way to put it than this), then you have the making of what we see today. In lesser measure today than in the past I must say.

 

[Web Monkey]

How do you get just a "provisional certification" isn't it a pass or fail type thing Are you not certified DIR......or is there a waiting period while your hose is being stretched to 7 feet?

Also, my hose is 7 foot 1 inch, not bragging or anything so I guess I'm way ahead of the game................

It's like getting probation for a DWI. They have spies that watch you to make sure that you aren't off secretly buying split fins or a jacket BC.

If they catch you, they revoke your card.

Terry

 

[Meng_Tze]

Steve, I don't understand why the DM didn't remove the bungee from around the diver's neck before removing his rig?

DM was not familiar with said config to the extend that it was second nature to go for that. But even then.... surely it can be cut loose.... knife is on waistbelt.... oh... maybe DM also was not familiar with that config? Hmm, seems like an issue with knowledge of config...did DM have his own knife.... if so why didn't he use it....

Who knows, we can only speculate, we were not the DM nor the unfortunate diver.

 

[rongoodman]

I have a loop in the bungee secured by a couple of zip ties(smaller profile than a double fisherman's knot). I'd rather have the regulator pull free and dangle instead of possibly pulling the mouthpiece off the regulator or snapping back and hitting me in the face.

 

[jeckyll]

I have a loop in the bungee secured by a couple of zip ties(smaller profile than a double fisherman's knot). I'd rather have the regulator pull free and dangle instead of possibly pulling the mouthpiece off the regulator or snapping back and hitting me in the face.

During my rescue class one of the "victims" had a bungeed secondary. As I was removing his gear and at the surface and getting him ready to be moved out of the water, I was pullying the reg over his head and the bungee came off and smacked him right in the nose.

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Of course he reacted quite quickly. Given that we were doing the "unresponsive / unconscious" diver at the surface scenario, I quickly yelled "he's OK!!".

The lesson is: bungeed secondaries save lives