Why DIR doesn't work for me...

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Where I fall off of the DIR wagon:

  • Habitual violator of Rule #1.
  • Occasional solo diving.
  • Physical fitness level. I meet the 13 mets requirement, but I'm overweight.
  • Soft pack with pseudo teck harness and a couple extra D rings.
  • Computer. Won't dive without one - usually two. I know how to run the tables and I take them along if I'm going to be anywhere near deco limits, but I still take my 'puter(s).
  • No H valve. If I'm not diving doubles, I'm on a K valve single.
  • Rarely carry a spare mask.
  • Happily willing to violate 100ft END.
  • Mark MOD as "FT" - I dive in Canada with some regularity and it helps.
  • Never replaced my mask and fin straps with springs.
  • Planning may consist of little more than "Which way we heading today?"
  • Only rarely start a bbs post with an obscenity laced personal attack.

I like much of the DIR program, but I feel unfettered by it's constraints and pick and choose to suit my needs at the time. A deep dive in cold water will find me a lot closer to DIR standards, but on a shallow dive in warm water that I'm familiar with...
 
My problem with DIR ( Doing It Right ) is that they say if your not doing it their way then your doing it wrong. Who’s to say that I’m doing it wrong ? I believe that when I dive I do so in a safe and responsible manor and I do so in a way that works best for me. Though I don’t contest that many of the things DIR does is a good idea, it is certainly not the only way to get the job done (safely). Saying that their the only ones doing it right is like saying that they are George Washington, it’s just nuts !! Maybe it should have been called DIS = Doing It Smart. This way it doesn’t sound like it’s the only way.

Dive Safe ……………………….. Arduous
 
I really enoyed reading all the notes on the subject, especially the solo diving thing which is only embraced by TDI/SDI of all the agencies. I won't comment on it, I think that speaks for itself.

So-called, "DIR" is something that, if you take its basic precepts to heart, can make you a better diver. Forget George's pronouncements that get leaked around, many inaccurately. Why do they say to put the long hose on the right-hand post? Well, forget that it routes under your light cannister perfectly from there and into your mouth from the right with a 7' hose; maybe you can get it to route correctly from the left. But what I consider to be a VALID reason is that if it's on your left post it could potentially roll off if the stem comes in contact with the ceiling in a tight place. If you also have your BC routed from there, you suddenly lose your ability to inflate your BC, again, in a tight place this could be a problem. When I say "tight place" I mean, belly in the silt, head bumping the ceiling and unless you are only diving main lines, at some point you'll be there.

Is that the only way to do it? No. There are a lot of cave divers that have done a lot of dives with a different method and they're still alive. Nice folks, some of 'em too! But I've done both and I see the logic in the DIR arrangement of hoses. It's well thought-out, and I like that.

To each thing, rig it according to its need.

You _don't_ put springs on your mask ( I don't know where that came from) and the reason fin springs work for cave diving is because they don't break and they are generally easier to use when drysuit diving. Two good reasons. Can you dive with rubber straps? Sure, but they can and do break. And if they sometimes break in OW, how more likely when you're pushing double steel 104's?

This isn't difficult to understand, who cares what "they" call it. I dive a dive computer when doing Rec-style diving, but my rig is Hogarthian or DIR. But if I'm doing Trimix or staged deco, then I'd better have a backup in deco or cut tables for 'mix. Both approaches make more sense. When considered in context of actual use.

But as one person pointed out, if you're teaching OW, you usually want to be wearing gear similar to your students' gear, and that's a jacket-style BC. That also makes sense. George focuses on what he needs to focus on and there are a lot of DIR-nik toadies out there that repeat his every utterance with a raptured worshipfulness. I have no use for them and the dirty secret is that George doesn't either. If you don't understand why you're DIR then you're even MORE of a stroke than someone who doesn't dive DIR but at least understands the choices made.

If you could ignore the personalities and focus on the gear, you might find useful things there that you could adapt for your own diving. That's the real secret to DIR, which it seems goes completely unnotticed. Don't just do what you've been able to get to "work" for you for the last "X" number of years/decades, you should constantly be reassessing your gear and yourself and maybe (horrors!) you might find useful things coming from this team that you at least seem to grudgingly (in some cases) admire for its incredible accomplishments underwater, in a cave, at 300+ feet and 18,000' back; dives that they make seem like a routine OW dive on a Sunday afternoon. That record of safety and accomplishment does demand some level of respect, even if George's mouth does not. :)

JoeL
 
Honestly, I'm picking and choosing about DIR configs. Parially because I'm still learning about DIR and partially because I'm still learning about diving. A lot of my misconceptions went away when I saw this video http://www.sfdj.com/dive/dir1.htm. Good intro to the "concept" of DIR

I use a computer but when I do deco dives it will be set to guage mode.

I'm set on the 7ft hose and bungied AAS, in fact I'm rigging them up today. I also clip my console high off my right sholder strap D-ring. I will stow my lift bag and ascent reel off my harness at the back too.

I don't use a canister light ($$) also since I didn't own tanks until Dec. I use a UK C8 (I clip it to my belt when I'm not using it by the 'C' handle - anyone have an idea how to sreamline it better? it hangs but ahem - it is not a dangly OK!)

My only concern about DIR not working for my diving is in the area of cutting tools. I don't dive caves - I dive wrecks and (I believe) that that opens up more entanglement threats. So rather than knife on waist, I'm going to continue with shears on BC, and Knife on my leg.

Still going to study DIR tho...to many good ideas for me to steal for my rig :hehe:


I'm not worried as much about DIR "peronalities" as I've run into the same amoungst instructors, Dive shop owners etc.
 
Originally posted by Ontario Diver

My only concern about DIR not working for my diving is in the area of cutting tools. I don't dive caves - I dive wrecks and (I believe) that that opens up more entanglement threats. So rather than knife on waist, I'm going to continue with shears on BC, and Knife on my leg.

Ontario,

I really didn't want to break into this thread with comments....
Just let folks vent... if you know what I mean....

But I think I have something constructive to offer you here and I also think you might appreciate it....

A knife on the leg is not only an entanglement hazard but forces you to change attitude in the water to retrieve it and then again to replace it...

Additional movement when entangled can lead to further entanglement...

It is also possible that if you are actually entangled and need to cut yourself free you might not be able to reach a knife down there...

A small sharp blunt tip knife on the waist is easy to retrieve and replace without a position change and will take care of most of your cutting needs without posing an entanglement hazard ...

Shears are a good thing to carry but unless they are stowed properly (in a thigh pocket for instance) they can become a nasty entanglement hazard as well...

BTW... a short length of clear vinyl tubing shoved over the blades of shears keeps them closed and safe...

As for wreck diving... when you start using reels and guide lines you will find that your own line can become your greatest entanglement hazard if you have gear incorrectly positioned....

Just some tips...
 
UP;

Thanks as always... I am re-rigging my BC today, I'll look for a change and give it a try.

OD
 
Jjoeldm, your reasoning of roll-off is precisely why I breathe the roll-off post. I spend quite a bit of time in very tight spots (no-mount or sidemount) and attempt some passages backmount. When not soloing, in the unlikely event that there is an out of air scenario, I know I'm breathing a functional reg, and I know my backup hasn't rolled off. Although I usually don't backmount tight places, that is why.

Cheers
 
Originally posted by Divesherpa
Jjoeldm, your reasoning of roll-off is precisely why I breathe the roll-off post. I spend quite a bit of time in very tight spots (no-mount or sidemount) and attempt some passages backmount. When not soloing, in the unlikely event that there is an out of air scenario, I know I'm breathing a functional reg, and I know my backup hasn't rolled off. Although I usually don't backmount tight places, that is why.

Cheers

Well, no-mount or side-mount aren't even an issue for roll-off and if you're in tight spots with a _buddy_ (as you should be unless you're sump diving) dealing with a rolled-off primary is a bigger problem IMHO than a rolled-off backup. Odds are you won't even have to deal with a rolled-off backup reg except to do the requisite check on it after a tight spot, but a rolled off primary while IN the tight spot is the more likely scenario. For that reason, I still believe that the Hogarthian, breathe the long hose on the right post regimen makes the most sense.

I used to argue it from your standpoint, but came to the conclusion that if I hand off my primary, then dealing with the rolled-off backup is less of a problem for me than dealing with a primary roll-off and the unlikely event of a roll-off AND an OOA buddy. What I'm handing off is a good reg that I was JUST breathing, so I have the time to deal with the rolled-off backup. I've dealt with a roll-off before and if you can reach your regs, it's no big deal. It's amazing how much time you have to figure it out and deal with it.

JoeL
 
Originally posted by Divesherpa
Jjoeldm, your reasoning of roll-off is precisely why I breathe the roll-off post. I spend quite a bit of time in very tight spots (no-mount or sidemount) and attempt some passages backmount. When not soloing, in the unlikely event that there is an out of air scenario, I know I'm breathing a functional reg, and I know my backup hasn't rolled off. Although I usually don't backmount tight places, that is why.

Cheers

Divesherpa,
If you have your long hose on the left post and donate to an OOA diver who is now swimming in front of you through a restriction and you have a roll off of the left post your dependant diver is in a very bad position. They cannot roll the valve back on and they cannot turn around to tell you to turn it on.

How would you handle this situation.
 
Uncle Pug, That is an excellent question.
I guess that would depend on if I could see or not. Worst possible scenario I can think of is OOA buddy, in silt out in very tight quarters where reaching the manifold would be a problem.
An excellent reason to either solo, or dive sidemount with someone who's sidemount.

What is DIR's stance on sidemount and no-mount diving? I haven't seen anything on that topic. I would like to see how they would set up a sidemount rig. My rig is a home-made rig, as everyone else I know dives a homemade rig as well.
 
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