Why DIR doesn't work for me...

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I don't subscribe to DIR. I just dive with my gear configured the way that works for me. I only suggest gear configurations to people if what they are doing is unsafe. I really don't waste much energy worrying about DIR or not DIR. The gear configuration I use is tried and true by me for the way I dive and the conditions I dive. If I were to get into tech diving or cave diving I would change it to fit the need. I hate people telling me how to configure my gear as much as I hate people to tell me how to correct my golf swing. If want an opinion I will ask for it. If it is given unsolicited I will ignore it.


Scott
 
I am making a slow gear conversion to DIR as $$$ allows. I came upon DIR early in my diving career and liked what I saw.

If I had encountered DIR later in my diving career, my reaction might have been much different.
 
Originally posted by large_diver
If I had encountered DIR later in my diving career, my reaction might have been much different.

And maybe not...

I had been diving for a long time before finding anything out about DIR (and that was on rec.scuba of all places)

DIR was contrary to every element of the way we were diving....

My buds and I were proud of being a *boatload of strokes*...

But I don't mind folk telling me what they think I am doing wrong... and so far I haven't found anything in my DIR training that has been anything but vast improvement in the types of diving I do...

But that is just my experience....
So in this thread...
I was kind of hoping to get some definitive answers like:

"I tried the DIR approach to buddy diving but it just didn't work for me as a photographer because....."
 
Not having any real DIR experience, I'm can't actively contribute, but am interested in learning from the discussion...

But I did want to say that Rodales decided to kick over the DIR can of worms in their own style.

See Page 22 of the March 02 issue (just received mine). Show's two divers looking at a green moray with "Bubbleology 101" as one of the headlines.
 
Here are some of the DIR things which don't work for me (and these are in no particular order)...

1) Solo diving. I accept that when I dive whether it's with a buddy or not, I am accepting a certain level of risk. In weighing the risks vs. rewards, I sometimes choose to dive by myself.

2) Money. Neither myself, or the group of people I dive with are operating on an unlimited budget, and we therefore cannot all afford to go out and buy identical sets of gear.

3) Any organization which claims that their way is the only way really turns me off, especially when they resort to calling anybody who does not do things their way "strokes." A post came across the Techdiving mailing list a few days ago which compared George Irvine and GUE to Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban. While that is certainly an extreme position, I can't help but appreciate the analogy.

4) Fitness. I don't live in Florida, and I don't make my living diving. While I'm not out of shape, I'm pretty sure I don't fit the DIR fitness guidelines. So because I don't have the time to get to the gym, workout, and get home does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to dive?

5) Individualism. What works for me may not work for you and vice-versa. I'm okay with that. I follow this board, a lot of the mailing lists, and even DIR websites. There's a lot to be learned, and I draw from all of those sources and adapt them to what works best for me.

6) Computers. I love my computer. As far as I'm concerned if you are diving and it seems more like you are working, then you are doing something wrong. If my computer fails I can fall back on my tables, but until that happens I'd much rather it do the work for me.

I think those are the things that immediately come to mind, I'm sure there's more.
 
When I'm the surface man with a new class on their first open ocean dive, where we're diving off a crewboat with a three line system and the students are giant-striding off a four foot high deck into choppy seas with a current, I use a great big jacket BC with lots of lift (Pro-QD in this case) for a high heads up position, a snorkel, a short hose and an integrated second. I carry a few extra 2 pounders in a weight belt that has pouches in addition to the correct weight in integrated pockets. I carry a sissy line. None of that stuff is "DIR" but it's "righter" than "DIR" for the job.
Rick
 
Oh, I get it. Yeah, I shot one of them thangs. Kept hootin' somethin that sounded like "stroke" and hard as the devil to skin.
 
Why DIR doesn't work for me?

Because it's not required for most of the diving I do.

Most diving is OW boat diving, mostly in the 15 to 35 m range, shore diving in the 10m range.

I don't want to have to lug a set of doubles onto the boat, or across the rocks. I don't need the redundancy for most diving as I don't believe there is a gear failure mode which would leave me with not enough air to do a safe ascent from 35 m. (no required deco, and I can accept the risk of blowing off a safety stop in the event of a serious problem). I can freedive to 10 to 15m, and have done single breath ascents from 20+m, so I am comfortable I would not drown even if OOA at 30m.

I prefer my BC with a drysuit inflator to having a hose flapping around - and its' trim is pretty good with my super steel 100 tank.
I wear a 7mm wetsuit, and dive with steel tank as it decreases to total weight I need to carry, and puts that weight where I want it for trim.

I mostly multilevel dive, and stay at various depths dependant upon what there is to see. I'd find a depth based plan too restrictive, so I use a computer.

I will solo dive, as the most dangerous things I ever see underwater are other divers. (but I MUCH prefer to dive with one of my regular buddies)

I like my quattro's and tape the straps.

I actually don't even see the need for an Octo if diving with one of my normal buddies. I can breath of a freeflowing reg, and I can happily buddy breath to the surface, including stops - and have done so. But Octo's are a requirement of the boats I dive on.

I have used independant doubles, and believe they are safe enough if you manage the gas use, and have less failure points than a manifold. (however I will be setting up with an ISO manifold for my own doubles, as I think this is an easier solution to manage in general.)

I'll dive to 50m on air, as long as I have redundant air supplies and an equally competant buddy. The complexity of getting mix is not worth the benefit it brings (I am also not trained on Mix, however a number of the guys I know who will also do this dive on air are certified gas blenders with access to a filling station). Yes I experience narcosis, and yes I will call a dive if I feel it is effecting me to the extent that it's unsafe. But I'll still go back and do the same dive the next day if I feel comfortable.

Now ignoring all the above :) I am moving to Cavern sinkhole training and diving, and will configure in a hogarthian fashion for this - and will use the same rig for deeper OW dives. I'll still keep my computer (buddies as backup), Quattros, and may even continue to dive wet with double steel tanks (but dual wings).

I'll be using my rec rig for rec dives though.

Mike
 
Very nice way to bring up this topic, Uncle Pug

"Though good training is necessary to produce a solid base of experience, no amount of training can replace time in the water for honing your skills and for developing comfort, confidence, and awareness." Jarrod Jablonski 1st page of DIRF

1. Solo Diving
2. Freedom to dive without strict plans (pushes and deep wreck exempt from this point)
3. physical fitness level
4.crotch strap only when scootering
5.extra d ring on left side
6.pressure guage shoulder mounted
7.no knife in cave (emt seat belt shredders)
8.no h-valve on single tank ow 30 ft reef dives
9.2 computers with b/u tables for air or eanx dives
10. seldom wear compass
11. reel placement
12.mount long hose on opposite post w/pressure guage
13. extra back-up lights
14. always carry stage when solo caving
15.run short hose under arm
16. goodman on right hand
17.no spare mask
18. I love my quattros (taped, kind of )
19. occasional alcohol consumption
20. END (can't remember their max END, but I'm sure I blow that one)
21. Sidemount? anyone know anything about GUE sidemount
22. the list continues.

I would like to counter by saying that WKPP does amazing dives that I wish I could take part in, but I love to dive and I'm not very political. Their safety record is very good. I don't advocate or advise anyone to dive with my gear configuration as I dive what works for me, both in caves, through ice, on wrecks, and on 50 foot reefs with my wife.
I would advise everyone to seek proper training(through GUE, IANTD, NACD, NSS-CDS, etc) before doing any dive beyond their educational level.

Cheers
 
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