These responses are all over the place. Mask fog is not a joke, not at all. It can make a dive experience MISERABLE. Fog problems occur with new masks with glass lenses, and all plastic mask lenses unless the plastic has a special coating as with Hydroptix. That is what makes the statement so interesting, that the Hydro mask does not fog after "break in". I don't understand because, if anything, the antifog coating should eventually wear off or degrade and then fog like crazy. Whatever. About glass, after scrubbing a new mask (with glass lenses) it should only be necessary to spit in the mask once before the dive to suppress fog. One poster said, "after spitting do one short rinse". That is correct. Personally, I will do anything to avoid the so called "windshield wiper" technique. That is for amateurs and really sucks, IMO. To avoid it means the diver must do the new mask scrub down and it ain't easy. I found toothpaste and soaps or detergents to be ineffective, frustrating even. I settled on a mixture of alcohol and vinegar, the same stuff that some folks put in their ears. If they don't work for you in combo, try the washes separately, vinegar and alcohol. After that, scrub with some detergent if you like. Whatever is lodged in the micro pores of new glass is mean stuff (don't say "release agent", glass is not made that way). Spit, detergents and other "antifogs" contain surfactants which coat the glass and reduce the surface tension of water in contact with glass. It allows the beads of water to puddle and run off or sheet out. One poster was correct to mention surface tension. That is the whole idea. Cleaning is only important with a new mask, to allow your personal surfactant to infiltrate the micro pores present in seemingly smooth glass. That won't happen until the first cleaning is successful. After cleaning and treating with detergent or spit, blow hot breath into the mask. Fog should disappear within a second or two. If patches of fog persist, repeat the cleaning process. Once a mask is clean, nothing short of a shot of silicone spray will prevent spit from defogging a mask completely. Don't do that and don't get any grimey fingerprints on the lens either.