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H2Andy:hehehe... yeah, it's called an octopus
Maybe you do if you like the term but he didn't :11ztongue
Pete
What is an octopus?
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Maybe you do if you like the term but he didn't :11ztongue
Pete
H2Andy
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hehehe
hey, suggest a better name and i'm there, dude
how about BSS (for backup second stage)?
hey, suggest a better name and i'm there, dude
how about BSS (for backup second stage)?
OP
H2Andy:
"Safe Second" has been in use and lacking anyhting better is what I try to use.
I like terms that are self evident so more alphabet soup isn't what I think we need.
Even though the owner may need to use it "sharing second" comes to mind. Or as you suggested, "backup second".
Yes I know this a David and Goliath type of notion but things have to start somewhere. I can see from the other posts that plenty agree the the octopus term is corrupted.
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H2Andy
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oh i don't know... an acronym might be just the thing (the Army loves them)
maybe not BSS, but something catchier?
maybe not BSS, but something catchier?
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H2Andy:
howzabout "alternate second stage" ... it comes with a catchy acronym ... :11:
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H2Andy
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i thought about that one but... decided not to make an alternate second
stage out of myself
stage out of myself
H2Andy
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awsome putdown:
you don't know your Alternate Second Stage from a hole in the water, do you?
you don't know your Alternate Second Stage from a hole in the water, do you?
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Yep, that's where it came from, and what happened. I'll see if I can find the article.String:
I call the other second stage my Alternate Second Stage, but hadn't noticed the acronym...!!
:lol:
Edit: Unlike SB, Dive Training magazine does not have a Search feature and copies of past article available on the web. I did read an article there a year or so ago, about the 4 hose reg configuration being dubbed an Octopus when first presented as divers were used to 1 or 2 hoses. It showed a photo of one with hoses hanging down, and a photo of an 8 legged animal with the legs hung in a similar pose.
I still think that calling the second stage and Octo confuses students needlessly, but then - I've never been an Instructor.
verybaddiver
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The guy who said sharing air from the Octopus (asin the whole system) is probably the guy who's answered correctly. Overtime the reduction of 'buddy-breathing' has meant that you only ever share from your 'octopus' through the alt-second stage, so it has probably just become convuluted to have the safe-second known as the octopus, when infact it really means sharing from your WHOLE octopus.
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