The Sandbar Grand Cayman is a Fraud/Scam

[H2O 70]

www.sunbiz.org - Department of State

I figured out how to check the status of an LLC in FL. They are 'inactive'.

 

[Jax]

www.sunbiz.org - Department of State

I figured out how to check the status of an LLC in FL. They are 'inactive'.

Excellent job, sir! H2O 70 seem to have taken all the right steps. Filing a formal complaint with the State Attorney General and the State Corporation Commission will get you an answer.

Also, do not forget small claims court. You can file on them for a return of monies spent . . . no personal angish, etc., but those costs that you spent are legitimate and of which you can provide proof.

The State will then place a lien against the individual and company (most states, don't know about Florida) and if they sell anything, their judgement for the small claims court comes out first.

 

[Rutger]

If the Cayman angle is a scam, its not unreasonable that they lifted names and images from a legitimate website to add authenticity.

 

[H2O 70]

I received a 3rd voice mail last night from Jon Eversmeyer asking me to call and learn about his company.

Using customerservice@thecaymansandbar.com, e-mail from their website, I asked him to be join the board and present his side of the story.

I don't know if you guys know this, but there is a mirror story occurring on spearboard.com.

We're not the only paranoid ones.

 

[inventor]

Can you post a link to the spearboard thread? I can't find it in search.

 

[mike_s]

Can you post a link to the spearboard thread? I can't find it in search.

Scam or Dream job? what do you think? - Spearboard Spearfishing Community

 

[H2O 70]

Wow. As posted I sent an e-mail to their customer service. I received an e-mail from Barbara. I'm going to post the response for what it is worth.

On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:55:30 -0400, Chris Daniels wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This e-mail is for Jon Eversmeyer.
Received

>
> Jon I've received your voice mails concerning what forum members are
> posting on ScubaBoard.com.
No, you said you called to talk and I had no notes to that effect, so I called as requested

>
> I have no vested interest on how you run your company or how it operates.
>
> There simply is a forum member who went to one of your recruitment
> sessions and for a variety of reasons, that member feels that your
> company is fraudulent and I believe he, or she, is, or has already,
> taken legal action. He, or she, posted their gripes on ScubaBoard.com
> to let other know of his, or hers, experience with your company.
Talked to this person, and he sent me an email saying he would post an apology. Haven't seen it yet, but I don't spend time on these forums.

Talked to the authorities he talked to and they have no problem with us>
> Forum members, including myself, have used the internet and personal
> networks, to learn about your company.
>
> Using public information what we have found was Michelle Eversmeyer's
> mySpace page. The page is loaded with photos that can be found on
> thecaymansandbar.com website. Michelle refers to her husband Todd.
> Todd and Michelle own, run, and/or operate a dive operation called First
> Stage Divers. We can see that Todd is a PADI certified MSDT and using
> the PADI proCheck we can verify his credentials. If we search your
> names we can find on corporationwiki where the group of you, including a
> Rober Younger, founded a company on January 16th, 2008 called Steamer
> Sandbard, LLC. If we search Mr. Younger, we can see that his name will
> match up to a Kansas phone number that is on your site. If we search
> your LLC, we can find through Florida State documents that your
> organization went 'inactive' on August 25th, 2009. Other forum members
> are calling their personal contacts in Grand Cayman and they are trying
> to learn about your organization.
Todd is teaching locally before the Cayman transition. He helps the Sea Scouts out considerably

We gave up on the US economy and elected to go Cayman. Have been building that Cayman organization for 5 years and finally broke the red tape.

>
> One forum member, Eric from Edge Gear, has actually called a left a
> message at the Kansas City phone number provided on
> thecaymansandbar.com. As of yesterday, he hasn't been contact.
Have him call again. Have no record of his call. Might want to use a real name, makes it easier

>
> On the other had, you are calling me, and I haven't called you.
Was thinking the same thing

>
> I would encourage you to join ScubaBoard and share you side of the story
> with the members and answer any questions.
Don't have time to debate. Only knew of your inputs from a call I received that said "Look at this"

>
> You should also know that there is a near exact thread on another forum
> called SpearBoard.com. It is a near mirror thread.
>
> I again invite you to join the board and share your side of the story
> publicly as opposed to privately with me.
Not private. You asked for a call and you got it. You went to emails, not me.

>
> Thank you very much and I look forward to seeing you and your company on
> the board!



With that folks, I'm done.

 

[cerich]

oh, they posted for divers on craigslist...it MUST be legit

 

[cerich]

Wow. As posted I sent an e-mail to their customer service. I received an e-mail from Barbara. I'm going to post the response for what it is worth.

On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:55:30 -0400, Chris Daniels wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This e-mail is for Jon Eversmeyer.
Received

>
> Jon I've received your voice mails concerning what forum members are
> posting on ScubaBoard.com.
No, you said you called to talk and I had no notes to that effect, so I called as requested

>
> I have no vested interest on how you run your company or how it operates.
>
> There simply is a forum member who went to one of your recruitment
> sessions and for a variety of reasons, that member feels that your
> company is fraudulent and I believe he, or she, is, or has already,
> taken legal action. He, or she, posted their gripes on ScubaBoard.com
> to let other know of his, or hers, experience with your company.
Talked to this person, and he sent me an email saying he would post an apology. Haven't seen it yet, but I don't spend time on these forums.

Talked to the authorities he talked to and they have no problem with us>
> Forum members, including myself, have used the internet and personal
> networks, to learn about your company.
>
> Using public information what we have found was Michelle Eversmeyer's
> mySpace page. The page is loaded with photos that can be found on
> thecaymansandbar.com website. Michelle refers to her husband Todd.
> Todd and Michelle own, run, and/or operate a dive operation called First
> Stage Divers. We can see that Todd is a PADI certified MSDT and using
> the PADI proCheck we can verify his credentials. If we search your
> names we can find on corporationwiki where the group of you, including a
> Rober Younger, founded a company on January 16th, 2008 called Steamer
> Sandbard, LLC. If we search Mr. Younger, we can see that his name will
> match up to a Kansas phone number that is on your site. If we search
> your LLC, we can find through Florida State documents that your
> organization went 'inactive' on August 25th, 2009. Other forum members
> are calling their personal contacts in Grand Cayman and they are trying
> to learn about your organization.
Todd is teaching locally before the Cayman transition. He helps the Sea Scouts out considerably

We gave up on the US economy and elected to go Cayman. Have been building that Cayman organization for 5 years and finally broke the red tape.

>
> One forum member, Eric from Edge Gear, has actually called a left a
> message at the Kansas City phone number provided on
> thecaymansandbar.com. As of yesterday, he hasn't been contact.
Have him call again. Have no record of his call. Might want to use a real name, makes it easier

>
> On the other had, you are calling me, and I haven't called you.
Was thinking the same thing

>
> I would encourage you to join ScubaBoard and share you side of the story
> with the members and answer any questions.
Don't have time to debate. Only knew of your inputs from a call I received that said "Look at this"

>
> You should also know that there is a near exact thread on another forum
> called SpearBoard.com. It is a near mirror thread.
>
> I again invite you to join the board and share your side of the story
> publicly as opposed to privately with me.
Not private. You asked for a call and you got it. You went to emails, not me.

>
> Thank you very much and I look forward to seeing you and your company on
> the board!



With that folks, I'm done.

It is Chris and I left my real name.

 

[H2O 70]

It is Chris and I left my real name.

Sorry...thought you were Eric. But that would explain why they seem to think I'm calling them.