Race to the Depth, Slow descend vs Fast descend

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I was curious what my descent rate was so I checked my computer dive log for this year and according to that my average descent rate is 328 ft/minute. Can that be right?

I go as quickly as equalization will allow... In my area with mediocre viz and any current you could end up doing a sand dive and having to resurface if you don't get down fast enough and hit the patch reef or ledge. I've also developed a habit of playing Ted Nuggent's Stranglehold in my head on descents. :D
 
I was curious what my descent rate was so I checked my computer dive log for this year and according to that my average descent rate is 328 ft/minute. Can that be right?

I go as quickly as equalization will allow... In my area with mediocre viz and any current you could end up doing a sand dive and having to resurface if you don't get down fast enough and hit the patch reef or ledge. I've also developed a habit of playing Ted Nuggent's Stranglehold in my head on descents. :D
Is your computer not turning on till you're at a certain depth? That's REALLY fast. Most of mine are like 100fpm.
 
That is almost 4 mph. I doubt you can swim or sink that fast, especially since the first 20 ft may be slow as the BC crushes and. Bubbles work out of wetsuit. 100 meters per minute is faster than I can swim in a speedo.
 
I tried that once on a 200+ foot dive on a wreck in Lake Washington ... arrived at the bottom loopier than a high school kid on prom night ... decided I didn't need to do it again ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

I did this on a dive recently 200+ feet down and arrived at depth with vertigo until I caught sight of a fixed point. I was less aggressive on the next dive :)
 
"dumpsterDiver, post: 7862594, member: 55691"]It sounds like you are not a strong diver and can not handle the challenge that the dive presents,. You have not answered the most basic question which was are you pulling down a line in a current......

Simple it doesn't make sense for me to try a dive under those circumstances, what is the joy in that ?

It is important thAt you acknowledge and respect your weaknesses so you don't kill yourself. In my opinion you should be only presenting yourself with small incremental challenges that do not make you uncomfortable.

I descend fast it makes me uncomfortable, I descend slow and like nothing happen, depth by it self doesn't make me uncomfortable, it is the rate of descend.

Also it surprised me that you are trained in technical diving. But you would not have an understanding that the quicker you get to depth ...The more time you will spend at depth..


You are assuming. Assuming is a well know mistake, All divers know that if you go faster down you have extra minutes at bottom you learn that in OW, wow 3min more, what shall I do with that massive amount of time ( just funny sarcasm don't get it personal ), now that I know that going slow appear to make the trick for me, I just calculate that in my dive plan, more Deco doesn't make me more uncomfortable it just give more time to shoot pictures in the reef.

If you can not do certain dives because they are outside of your abilities ... That is not a big deal

Don't exactly grasp the full meaning of this under the context of my OP, doing Deco is in my ability, going deep is not an ability ( I think ), but tolerating fast descends appear to not be in my abilities, that is the reason of this Thread, that is why I ask.

I have never said or claim that I'm a good diver, quite opposite, I'm not ashamed to say I'm new to diving, that is what 50-99 means or in the next two dives 100-250 will mean as well.
 
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I drop like a bat out of hell @ 100fpm plus. As far as enjoying the dive, I try to get to the bottom as quickly as possible. Going to 250'-300' is expensive especially on OC and whatever I'm going to see I would like to spend more time on the bottom rather than descending slowly. I think on my last deep dive max was 293', for every min I was in the 275'-293' range it added 6-7 mins of deco, I know your (op) not diving to those depths yet but I do drop fast on most ow technical diving. Like you (OP) stated, what works for me won't necessarily work for you.

Exactly, I have no interest beyond 60m, probably never will, I put my limit to that, and 4 bottom tanks with 2 Deco tanks max, that is enough for me, O2 is not that expensive.
 
Remy what size tanks do you normally use for bottom gas and deco? Forgive me if I'm mistaken but I'm taking it as your using your (2) primaries whether it be sm or bm, 2 more tanks for bottom gas and then 2 for deco, total of 6 tanks? If that's the case then depending on what size tanks your using 6 tanks is overkill for 60m max but that's my opinion. Are you using AL40s or AL80s for stages? Sorry I'm not sure of the metric conversion. I've seen some people use AL40s for 50+ meter dives but my preference is AL80s.
 
I've seen, first-hand, several instances of individuals aborting technical dives due to "dark narc" on reaching bottom depth... and in every instance the diver concerned was breathing heavily prior to, and during, descent. Descent speeds were moderate-fast (at, or exceeding 15m per minute).

Andy, while I agree with a big chunk of what you wrote, I'd be curious to see how many of them were also deep breathing versus shallow breathing. I've seen a number of people that were breathing very rapidly ("heavy breathing") but also breathing very shallow get spaced out on deep dives. The worst case was when I witnessed a friend whose eyes rolled up in his skull at 210' in Cozumel during a fairly rapid descent.

The problem with this is they're not breathing deep enough to flush enough CO2 to prevent getting narc'd and tunnel vision. I see it all the time in student cave divers when they're in charge of running a reel in a high flow system.

One trick I teach my cave students is that as soon as they tie into the permanent line, I want them to stop and take three deep breaths before they proceed further into the cave. I tell them I want to see them counting "1-2-3" as they're breathing. The purpose behind this is so they stop and completely ventilate their lungs, clearing out the CO2.

To @Remy B. -- the problem you're experiencing isn't due to the descent rate as much as it is to your own nervousness and apprehension, which is probably leading you to hyperventilate. You probably feel more in control during the slower descent, which is helping you to stay relaxed and breathe deeper, and during the quicker descent you probably feel out of control, which is causing you to breathe shallow and rapidly. While my "stop and breathe 1-2-3" trick isn't really as applicable during a rapid descent in open-ocean, you can definitely use it once you've hit your target depth to clear your head. You can also try using it from the surface before you descend -- stop and the water column, say at 5', and take 3 deep breaths before your rapid descent.

Another suggestion I would make is to visualize in your mind the dive, including the descent, before you even get on the boat, and then visualize it in your mind again before you splash into the water. I used to think that visualization was new-age mumbo jumbo, but after spending five years racing a bike on the SE bike circuit, I learned a lot about how successful athletes use visualization techniques to "improve their game." I've since then incorporated visualizing techniques on "big" dives and found them to be a very powerful tool.
 
Exactly, I have no interest beyond 60m, probably never will, I put my limit to that, and 4 bottom tanks with 2 Deco tanks max, that is enough for me, O2 is not that expensive.

This sounds like a lie I told my wife.. "Oh honey, although I'm signing up for a cavern class, I'll never go cave diving..."
 
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