Oceanic releasing Geo 4.0

[Marie13]

Is the interface that bad? The only non-intuitive thing I read in the manual was Advance and Mode don't necessarily do what you would expect, like they're reversed. The Sherwood version of the Geo, the Amphos, does weird long presses, which would seem to make it even more non-intuitive. Between the Geo 2.0 and the Amphos, the Geo 2.0 seems to be the better one for interface.

Yeah, it was sh***y. Had to do the online class to figure it out. I’m much happier with my Perdix. Geo is my backup.

 

[markmud]

The only non-intuitive thing I read in the manual was Advance and Mode don't necessarily do what you would expect, like they're reversed.

Yeah, that advance and mode reversal thing gets me almost every time. The PP2 does not do that.

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[markmud]

Yeah, it was sh***y. Had to do the online class to figure it out. I’m much happier with my Perdix. Geo is my backup.

For sure. My PP3 is now my back-up for my Perdix ai.

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[scubadada]

I just saw this too. It seems to be two enhancements, new display and Bluetooth. My main disappointment is that the log is still only 24, which isn't enough for liveaboards and then downloading later.

There are many more dives available for download than the 24 in the computer's physical log. It probably depends on the sampling rate, I use 30 seconds, and have 58 dives available for download. I did 47 dives over 2 weeks in the Red Sea and had no problem downloading them when I returned home.

The Pro Plus 4.0, and Geo 4.0 are already up on the Oceanic website, a Veo 4.0 will be there soon.

 

[RIHappyDiver]

There are many more dives available for download than the 24 in the computer's physical log. It probably depends on the sampling rate, I use 30 seconds, and have 58 dives available for download. I did 47 dives over 2 weeks in the Red Sea and had no problem downloading them when I returned home.

The Pro Plus 4.0, and Geo 4.0 are already up on the Oceanic website, a Veo 4.0 will be there soon.

This has been my experience with my Geo 2. Last year when I dove in Bonaire for a week I remembered to change the sample rate on my i300 to 30 seconds, but forgot about changing the Geo from 2 seconds. Needless to say, the Geo did not have all of my dives. This years trip I changed both computers, dived a similar number of dives, and everything was there in both computers.

 

[divinh]

Comparing the Giotto and Geo 2.0:

Giotto sampling rate 20 sec, with latest 60 available for viewing

Geo 2.0 sampling rate 2, 15, 30, or 60 sec...

From the Geo 2.0 manual:

"
> After exceeding 24 dives, the most recent dive is stored while the oldest is deleted.
> Dives are numbered from 1 to 24 starting each time NORM (or GAUG) Dive Mode is activated. After the post dive 24 hour period has elapsed and the unit shuts off, the first dive of the next activation period will be #1.
"

1. The 24 dives are at 2 sec sampling rate(?), so does that mean setting to 30 sec sampling rate mean getting 15x the number of dives, so 1-360 stored, but only the latest 24 are viewable?

2. The liveaboard I was on had an excursion to Komodo Island one day, which may have caused 24 hrs to elapse before diving again. Would that have meant all previous dives were lost and dives restarted at 1? Or is that just /viewable/ resetting to 1 but all previous dives are logged?

 

[scubadada]

Hi @divinh

The sampling rate only applies to dives for download. I've only used 30 sec sample and on current download log have 58 dives, probably 60 hours. I've never used other sampling rates.

There are 24 dives viewable on the computer's log, after that, oldest overwritten. After 24 hours, new series starts at #1, the other 23 dives are all still viewable in the log

 

[RIHappyDiver]

@divinh, the 24 viewing dives, and that will be the case no matter your sampling rate.
So for question #1, the math looks good and I would think that is true for storage, but have no real backup for the actual numbers. However, as far as viewable, yes, only the last 24 are viewable, no matter the sampling rate.
#2, your previous dives should not have been lost. I think of it as a series of dives without a 24 hour break, then another series after the break.

Hope that helps,
Erik

Hit reply before I saw @scubadada. Sorry if duplication.

 

[divinh]

For 30 sec sampling, 1-58 are stored, with 35-58 viewable (latest 24) and the computer /shows/ the dives as 35-58? Or does it still show 1-24, but it's really 35-58? When dive 59 is stored, it shows up as dive 1? As long as 30 sec sampling allows for more dives to be stored, I'd be fine with that, even if the dive numbers viewable rotate around, even resetting to 1 after 24 hours. As long as it's all there when bulk downloading.

 

[scubadada]

For 30 sec sampling, 1-58 are stored, with 35-58 viewable (latest 24) and the computer /shows/ the dives as 35-58? Or does it still show 1-24, but it's really 35-58? When dive 59 is stored, it shows up as dive 1? As long as 30 sec sampling allows for more dives to be stored, I'd be fine with that, even if the dive numbers viewable rotate around, even resetting to 1 after 24 hours. As long as it's all there when bulk downloading.

The on computer dive log and the downloadable dives are separate and unrelated.

The on computer log will always simply have the most recent 24 dives. The dives in the on computer log will be numbered consecutively, as long as there is less than 24 hours between dives. If more than 24 hours passes, a new series, starting at 1, will be started. All of the previous 23 dives are still in the log. For example, I recent did 18 dives on a visit to Florida. I did 2 dives, had a day off, did 12 dives over 5 days, had a day off, and finished with 4 more dives over the last 2 days. So for these 3 series, they are numbered 1-2, 1-12, and 1-4. They are all in the computer log, along with 6 other dives, for a total of 24. The on computer log has simple information on 4 screens, date, start time, dive number, surface interval, max depth, dive time, water temp, ending O2 exposure %, max pO2, and gas used.

Here is a screen shot from OceanLog showing the download screen. There are 58 dives/ about 60 hours available for download using the 30 sec sampling period. I have never used 2, 15, or 60 second sampling, but assume it would affect the number of dives available for download based on the amount of data. This seems to be confirmed by @RIHappyDiver in post #15. Perhaps others, using different sampling rates, can further substantiate this.

The 3 series of dives from my recent visit to Florida can be seen below, with the same numbering system that is used in the on computer log

The downloadable log contains more information as seen from the example, below. This happens to be the last dive in download list 2/28/19, #4. As this computer is AI, gas use, SAC, and RMV are shown, but would not be included with the Geo 4.0. The dive profile is also included (the red area in this profile is a few minutes of deco). Obviously, the exact information in the download is dictated by the log application you end up using.

I hope this clears up your questions.

Good diving, Craig