Why is Veronica in a cave with a single tank and no backup/pony?
Jill Heinerth training video
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down4fun
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Ginnie is no joke when you are new. I did my class ccr so i had a rebreather and 2 AL80's going thru the ear. By the time I tied off to the gold line I was ready for lunch. Coming out was no better, as we had a decompression obligation, and the ear was trying to spit me out for 20 minutes or so. I felt like I was back in a english jump class using my calves to hold onto the log like it was a horse.
down4fun
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If you have never dove in flow and especially Ginnie Springs flow it's hard to understand what's going on in that video. But just imaging you are trying to make entrance into a cave while someone has a fire hose pointed at you turned on at full blast trying to push you back out. Now add to that,that you are trying to make your first ever primary cave tie off, add to that the stress of class and your instructor watching and NOW add to that the fact that someone is videoing you and I think her performance is what's to be expected.
Nice to read so many realistic opinions (confessions, I guess <G>) of the level of skill and operational dexterity "first time out." We all aim for perfection... or a rough facsimile of it... and sometimes we get there; sometimes we walk away thankful that there was not a video camera recording the scene. Those few dive buddies who gave me a plague and the nickname "Snap-N-Gap" to commemorate 500 logged cave dives can confirm that we all make mistakes.
For the record, there really is no point to being drawn into an onLine debate about the role of an instructor or what constitutes a passing grade for a student in any level of technical diving program... my take on both scenarios is in print, on record and demonstrated by the little crowd of tech divers and instructors it's been my privilege to work with over the years.
But it does seem worth the effort to point out once again that I'm puzzled trying to determine the reason for the OP to begin this thread and especially suspicious about his statement focusing on "loosing respect" for Jill... who, in the interest of full disclosure... is a friend and colleague. I feel she is being centered out for a little character assassination. Which in the final analysis is an order of magnitude more serious than a student putting her knees down while trying to run a reel in the Devil's System at Ginnie.
For the record, there really is no point to being drawn into an onLine debate about the role of an instructor or what constitutes a passing grade for a student in any level of technical diving program... my take on both scenarios is in print, on record and demonstrated by the little crowd of tech divers and instructors it's been my privilege to work with over the years.
But it does seem worth the effort to point out once again that I'm puzzled trying to determine the reason for the OP to begin this thread and especially suspicious about his statement focusing on "loosing respect" for Jill... who, in the interest of full disclosure... is a friend and colleague. I feel she is being centered out for a little character assassination. Which in the final analysis is an order of magnitude more serious than a student putting her knees down while trying to run a reel in the Devil's System at Ginnie.
The cylinder is fitted with an H-Valve... which standards allow.
FWADIVER
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think you have to do a troll call on this one..
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In an effort to not discourage the OP from asking questions in the future, I'd like to believe the question was phrased poorly due to ignorance. I know I don't know *blip* about caving, hence needing to be told about the H-valve being allowed.
ucfdiver
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Which baffles me. I've been through the cave curriculum and still don't understand what value allowing a single tank into an overhead environment provides.
I don't think that's the same class...at 5:04 they're running a jump, and video posted earlier was a basic cave class.
Sorry.:focus:
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