Improving SAC? - tips for lower air consumption?

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Hello - I wasn't able to find anything in my search so I'll ask.

Are there some breathing techniques I can practice that will improve my SAC rate?

When I'm not diving and when I am diving?

My SAC is around .7 but I want to get it to .5.

Thanks much.
 
Here's [thread=228507]one recent thread[/thread] that covers it very well. (It's got too much good stuff in it to summarize easily.)

One little kernel of knowledge I'll put right here is that trying to change your air consumption is about the same as trying to push a rope. You can improve your *fitness*, and you can improve your *diving*. Either of those may considerably reduce the rate at which your body requires air.

On the other hand, you can't reduce your air consumption by trying to reduce your air consumption. Throw out your target air consumption, and just concentrate on improving yourself. You'll enjoy watching your air consumption decrease to whatever it will be.
 
Good advice CJ.
 
To improve your air consumption you must learn to breathe. The best training you can get is training in the martial arts or in meditation. The key is to relax and then relax some more. Take in each breath fully, breathing in with your diaphragm, not your chest. When you have fully inhaled, pause (keeping your pipes open) for at least as long as your inhalation took, then slowly exhale, taking two or three times as much time to exhale as you took on inhalation. Practice this for a while on the surface and then underwater and see if your air consumption does not improve.
 
The amount of air you need to breathe in a minute is set by the amount of carbon dioxide you generate. You can use efficient or inefficient breathing strategies (slow breaths with larger volumes are more efficient that rapid, shallow breaths) but the total gas you need can't drop below the minimum required to clear your CO2.

So the best way to reduce gas consumption is to reduce CO2 production, which means minimizing muscle activity. Efficient divers can stay longer on a given amount of gas. How do you become efficient?

First off, get close to correctly weighted. Do a formal weight check at the beginning or end of the dive (a search will give you a bunch of posts describing how to do this). Once you know what the total amount of weight you need is, figure out how to distribute it so that you can float in a horizontal position. Most weight-integrated BCs, in cold water, will put too much weight low on the diver's body, and obligate a feet-down position. When you are feet down, every kick drives you up and away from the bottom. In order not to ascend, you have to keep yourself negative. So a good part of every kick is completely wasted energy, used to keep you EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE. When you are horizontal, every kick drives you forward, so you can do a lot less kicking.

Similarly, getting nicely balanced allows you to dive without using your hands. Waving your hands and arms in the water uses a lot of muscle, but accomplishes very little. Clasping your hands in front of you or under your body keeps them still, and reduces gas consumption.

Another way to reduce muscle activity is to SLOW DOWN. Diving is a meandering sport (unless you are spearfishing), and you see far more life when you move slowly. Camouflage is a major method for survival for marine animals, and if you move quickly, you'll overlook the clever critters. Slowing down will allow you to use a "kick and glide" technique, which will also give you a frequent buoyancy check (if you sink or rise during the "glide" part, you know if you're negative or positive, and can adjust your buoyancy accordingly).

And the last thing is that your minimum safe consumption is somewhat set by your size. A 6'4" muscular man is always going to use more gas than I do (I'm 5'4" and far from muscular!). There is no shame at all in a higher gas consumption rate, as long as you have done what you can in technique to minimize it. At that point, you just get bigger tanks :)
 
Hello - I wasn't able to find anything in my search so I'll ask.

Are there some breathing techniques I can practice that will improve my SAC rate?

When I'm not diving and when I am diving?

My SAC is around .7 but I want to get it to .5.

Thanks much.

The most effective advice to be a five foot tall 90 pound female. Some one like that can dive for over and hour using 65 cu ft tank

If the above is not possible then the following applies to everyone

If you get more physically fit you will use less air.

Then after that the idea is to burn less O2. You have to move less and move slower. Do that by being more streamlined, better weighted, no unessary moves. and finally relax. being tense burns O2. Even breathing requires effort, do that slower.

The people I dive with who are really good on air don't move a lot they are not zipping around like seals and messing with their gear.
 
The best way to lower your SAC is to dive, dive, dive. The more you dive, the better you will get at it. The better your buoyancy and trim, the less drag you create through the water, the less you need to breathe. It's all about practice. One day your SAC will just be 0.5...if you dive a lot and on a regular basis. In fact, it should be even better than that.
 
Everyone above has given great advice. I'm going to Add Dive Dive Dive and oh yeah Dive some more. The more comfortable you are the better your SAC will be.
 
The best way to lower your SAC is to dive, dive, dive. The more you dive, the better you will get at it. The better your buoyancy and trim, the less drag you create through the water, the less you need to breathe. It's all about practice. One day your SAC will just be 0.5...if you dive a lot and on a regular basis. In fact, it should be even better than that.

Great post must be the Jedi mind trick :rofl3::D
 
Thanks for all of the quick advice. I was diving 4-6 times a month until my son's little league got going. I'm pretty comfortable diving in these balmy waters in the Seattle area. Sometimes a little cold in my wet suit but I'm switching over to a dry suit shortly.

What also got me to ask this was I noticed that, when sitting around home, I tend to take short shallow breaths and I was thinking about how to change this habit by deeper, slower breaths. Make sense?

Thanks again for all of the quick feedback.
 

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