Backup Regulator Necklace Hose Routing

[Wibble]

The Hogarthian rig allows for evolution and adaptation as long as the result is minimal and simple and functional. It is not rigid or fixed, especially when it comes to the minor things like elbows and rubber band count.

Depends with whom you speak with. The DIR wars are still simmering in some quarters!

 

[RobPNW]

Worst case, I can return some or all of my hoses. No worries. I appreciate all the advice. Just some background perspective. I did have an incident on a deep wreck with a standard stiff rubber hose where I probably turned my head too quickly and drank some water. The involuntary coughing fit that ensued was pretty unnerving to say the least. My goal is reliability but also flexibility of the hose, at least the ones I use for regulators.

At the same time, I understand that if you folks have learned through your experience, that the braided hoses are a pain in the neck (pun intended) in a long hose setup, that's also a non trivial consideration. Other than pain, I don't want a discomfort causing a distraction that impacts my situational awareness either.

I already have a 48" hose for under arm routing. I was just looking to get a 84" hose as an alternative to try out and get used to if I want to try other types of diving it may be more suited for down the road.

With that said, and I've seen reference to these on other threads, have any of you tried the Piranha Ultra flex hoses? They're rubber so they wouldn't have the abrasion issues but they're more flexible than traditional rubber hoses.

Ultraflex Hoses

www.piranhadivemfg.com

And to take the question one step further, what about using the Ultra flex hoses with a 1st stage that has a turret? Seems that would give me a non abrasive, flexible hose setup that has minimal kinking probability at the source.

 

[inquis]

Turret isn't a benefit for single tank because of the way the hoses route.

I'm not a fan of the ultra flex hoses. Doesn't stay as tidy when coiled & clipped off, and I worry (perhaps unnecessarily) about kinking and longevity. It's not so bad that I'll replace the one I have, but I would buy regular if I had a do-over.

 

[halocline]

Turret isn't a benefit for single tank because of the way the hoses route.

That depends on how you route your hoses in single tank. I use the turret all the time because I route them in the hogarthian way except with a 5 ft hose on my primary.

I have used the piranha ultra flex hoses, they're fine. Mine are fairly new, so I don't know how long they'll last yet.

 

[rongoodman]

Turret isn't a benefit for single tank because of the way the hoses route.

Not true at all. My primary comes straight down off the bottom port and either under my arm and across my chest or down to the waist belt, depending on whether I have a 5' or 7' hose.

 

[Wibble]

I have used the piranha ultra flex hoses, they're fine. Mine are fairly new, so I don't know how long they'll last yet.

Do they kink and cut off gas flow?

 

[inquis]

My primary comes straight down off the bottom port

Right, so the turret isn't doing anything for you. (Bottom port is not synonymous with turret.)

 

[inquis]

That depends on how you route your hoses in single tank.

Can you elaborate how your hoses are routed such that the turret spins?

 

[Wibble]

Can you elaborate how your hoses are routed such that the turret spins?

The turret doesn't spin: two hoses left, two hoses right (including the drysuit hose). Turrets tend to route the hoses in more-or-less the right direction.

Turrets do turn if it's sidemount. Or a decompression stage.

 

[rongoodman]

Right, so the turret isn't doing anything for you. (Bottom port is not synonymous with turret.)

Are there many regulators built with a 5th port but no turret? None jump to mind.