ankle weight question

[ChillyWaters]

Once again Jeff, we're waiting.....put up or shut up.

Perhaps you are waiting...

And I don't think anything would make Jeff shut-up... nor should it.

- ChillyWaters

 

[dherbman]

How do we ankle weight, multiple reel, multiple slate, multiple cutting tool, deco bottle carrying divers keep up with the aces like you Jeff? How on earth do we surface with the same amount of remaining air, apparently not exhausted from all the gear we've had to push through the water? What a mystery.......

--Matt

Ankle weights?

 

[AquaHump]

some socks...adding up to a couple of pounds of displacement. Defies the laws of physics. I don't have to dispute anything. It just proves how little you really know.

LMAO.....Jeff You are a trip. Right in every way on this but man you are a trip. This guy has very little clue to hold on to. don't take it away from him or he might snap.:14:

 

[JeffG]

You should start by reading slower, and actually thinking before you reply. You brought up DIR. I referenced it because it's a symptom of your problem.

You still have not answered my question. If ankle weights cause the problems you described, how do we execute dives as sucessfully as those who do not wear ankle weights? Same air remaining, same pace on the dive, same everything.....

Once again Jeff, we're waiting.....put up or shut up.

--Matt

Oh...and I'm an Ex-ankle weighter and I managed to survive using them, so why would I say that other people wouldn't be able to do a dive.

But I looked at my diving and I found that I could use skill to solve a problem, where as before I was trying to just throw hardware at it.

Which do you believe is the better approach?

 

[AquaHump]

Well, I've already given my two cents on how/why I think divers get caught with their pants up. The only thing this is accomplishing now is to increase my post count. I can't even begin to imagine what would be causing these people to have floating legs, if not for the air pocket moving south. Perhaps they have incredibly obese ankles? Anyway, don't take my word for it. Here are a few manufacturer descriptions as to the function of their gaiters:

Dive Rite
Dive Rite drysuit gaiters, made of heavy-duty CORDURA for durability, keep air movement in your drysuit legs to a minimum. Less air movement means you have less drag during fin kicks and easier buoyancy trim management.

OMS
OMS ® gaiters restrict the air holding capacity in the lower leg area reducing drag, and the possibility of diver inversion due to lower leg air entrapment.

Halcyon
Gator Wraps provide dry suit divers with extra comfort, increased safety, and reduced drag by limiting airflow to your feet. Rugged Cordura construction and double Velcro Gator Closure make the Halcyon Gators as tough as they are functional. Now you can gain the same high performance advantage as leading exploration divers. From cave to wreck, technical divers will find Gator Wraps a welcome alternative to cumbersome ankle weights and bulky dry suit legs.

I bought a pair of gators when I got my 905 and they have not been wet yet. I see no need for them. why add one more thing to worry about. Take ONLY what you need but take two!!! its that simple.eyebrow

 

[beezwax]

Take ONLY what you need but take two!!! its that simple.eyebrow

Aye, and learn to NEED as little as possible.

 

[Kwbyron]

I think we are all missing the big issue here and have gotten WAY off topic...... What happens to the turtle???
BTY
Dodge trumps both Ford and Chevy
oh! and Beezwax; I think a scout poking a sleeping grizzly with a stick animation would have been better.

 

[beezwax]

The turtle gets creamed...total loss. But the lead tube sock is fine. Surely you've seen this happen?

I'd agree with you on the dodge part, if we're talking trucks!

 

[ronrosa]

I don't use either, and I'm not a tech diver, but I think there would be more hypocrisy here if the techies liked jets because they're heavy. Presumably though they choose jets because they like the way they handle, the thrust they can get from those big stiff fins, rather than because they need the weight to keep their feet down.

I wasn't implying they use Jets because of the negative weight.

What I find weird is the people that are anti ankle weight keep talking about how the extra weight of the ankle weight is bad because of the extra work/strain involved. A lot of these people use jet fins. Seems like their argument against ankle weights also applies to jet fins. :06:

 

[Kwbyron]

I wasn't implying they use Jets because of the negative weight.

What I find weird is the people that are anti ankle weight keep talking about how the extra weight of the ankle weight is bad because of the extra work/strain involved. A lot of these people use jet fins. Seems like their argument against ankle weights also applies to jet fins. :06:

I sat in on a DIR course last week, I think they don't view it as the same because it's all about little movement, with traditional fluttering, your moving each leg like 2-3', the frog kick looked like little circles.. i dono... I think I agree with the "learn to control the bubble philosophy." It wasn't untill my 10-11th dry dive that I really felt comfertable managing the air in my suit, and even then it wasn't perfect. I was told it'd take this long before it was natural. I had ankle weights suggested, but I'm too cheep to buy them; and it worked out.


...poor turtle.....

who wants soup?