"Right to Repair" - Potentially great news for DIY!

[greeniguana]

More citations, from whatever source, is a good thing. I want to know why you think what you think. Well, most of the time, anyway. But if all you do is attack the source, rather than what the source presents, then what's the purpose? OK, you don't like YouTube. I'm not sure anyone cares about that. What did you think was wrong with what the presenter said? THAT'S what is salient here.

I'm unclear of the credentials education or experience of the youtube man, but he appears to want the federal govt to help him grow his equipment repair business. But he's also looking out for everyone else!! But wait, not "literally" everyone else.....

So he's a capitalist, but not the kind of capitalist that wants free markets to determine the fate of busineses. That's hypocritical. He apparently doesn't think he should be competing against Apple. That's unfortunate, but the federal govt doesn't need to get involved.

Tell me what I have wrong.

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

He apparently doesn't think he should be competing against Apple.

Maybe we are looking at this differently, but I do think when it comes to repairing devices, he does want to compete against Apple and anyone else.

Just like the car analogy, people learn by themselves, others, even YouTube, and schools on how to repair engines. I plan on taking the marine engine repair program at Lake Washington Technical College near my house. Like the farmers, I need to be able to work on my boat engines at my dive center as my livelihood depends on it. If the boat doesn't run, the dive center doesn't run. I can also hire a local to fix my boat engines. It is impractical to have the boat engine manufacturer to be the sole source of repair.

Now Apple or anyone locking down a $1000 isn't a big deal for me, but it may be for others. If you own something you should be able to do whatever you want with it and the manufacturer shouldn't make steps to punish you for doing so. If you brick your device, that's your problem.

 

[Centrals]

I believe in DIY.
Probably one reason why some manufacturers go all the way to make unauthorized repair extremely difficult eg special tool and parts.
Liability is another one eg fake spare parts and the subsequent immature failure.

 

[greeniguana]

Now Apple or anyone locking down a $1000 isn't a big deal for me, but it may be for others. If you own something you should be able to do whatever you want with it and the manufacturer shouldn't make steps to punish you for doing so. If you brick your device, that's your problem.

Then buy something else (it's possible, it just takes effort and people are lazy) and/or don't sign the license/end user agreement for whatever device you do buy. When people agree to the terms, they can't complain to the fed govt to help undo them.

Minimize the youtube window and read Adam Smith.

Nothing is stopping the you tube guy from writing his own code and selling it to Apple, or manufacturing his own cell phones that only he can repair. Apple or HP, or Dell has no obligation to give him their IP (software). Adam Smith would likely agree

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

Then buy something else (it's possible, it just takes effort and people are lazy) and/or don't sign the license/end user agreement for whatever device you do buy. When people agree to the terms, they can't complain to the fed govt to help undo them.

Minimize the youtube window and read Adam Smith.

We will obviously not converge on any sort of agreement, so I'll step out.

 

[lowwall]

Minimize the youtube window and read Adam Smith.

Nothing is stopping the you tube guy from writing his own code and selling it to Apple, or manufacturing his own cell phones that only he can repair. Apple or HP, or Dell has no obligation to give him their IP (software). Adam Smith would likely agree

No, Adam Smith would not agree. I addressed exactly this point several pages back: "Right to Repair" - Potentially great news for DIY!

 

[The Chairman]

Like the farmers, I need to be able to work on my boat engines at my dive center as my livelihood depends on it.

I never let on to the fact that I'm a diesel mechanic when I board a dive boat. I've made that mistake a few times too many.

 

[tursiops]

This is an executive order that doesn't actually do anything at this time.

But Executive Orders can be quite powerful, like the one that created NOAA in 1970. NOAA does not have an organic act, so still exists under that original Order.

 

[greeniguana]

No, Adam Smith would not agree. I addressed exactly this point several pages back: "Right to Repair" - Potentially great news for DIY!

Adam Smith was not a proponent of government intervention.

It is the highest impertinence and presumption… in kings and ministers, to pretend to watch over the economy of private people, and to restrain their expense... They are themselves always, and without any exception, the greatest spendthrifts in the society. Let them look well after their own expense, and they may safely trust private people with theirs. If their own extravagance does not ruin the state, that of their subjects never will.

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

There should be no anti trust laws or any regulations.

Governments must regulate/interfere for the overall good of society.

Where the line is drawn is what is to be debated, not the existence of the line.