Tips for staying pain free on long dives, have arthritis in lower back

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Yoga. It'll build core strength while also working on flexibility.

Absolutely no yoga for someone with arthritis of the spine. This is horrible advice and could cause some serious problems. Almost all yoga is focused on static stretching which is for muscles and tendons. The joints and arthritis need dynamic movement to heal and rejuvenate. It makes me cringe when someone says to do yoga for a back injury. Without an injury yoga could be incredible but with back issues, most yoga is out of the question.
 
Geez, I hope you're wrong. :shocked::facepalm:
 
Geez, I hope you're wrong. :shocked::facepalm:

Trust but verify. You can trust what I'm saying is correct but I would say to anyone to verify for yourself by trying different things wand watching how you respond. The majority of yoga is bad for joint issues unless it focuses on dynamic movement of the specified joint. From everything I've tried Kundalini yoga seems to be the best and everything else has left me with a great deal of pain for the rest of the day if not longer. I still stretch and improve my flexibility but only after I have warmed my joints up through specific movements. What ever range of motion you need to perform a specific activity your body should be flexible enough to have double the range of motion. So if you need to bend over for a total of 25 degrees then you should be flexible enough to reach 50 degrees. If you are performing activities at your maximum flexibility it causes a lot of stress on the body and it's not just muscles that need to be flexible but the joints as well. Would you drive your car with the RPM's on the red line every time you drive for the entire time you're driving or would your vehicle last longer if it was able to run at a much lower RPM that would allow the engine to last much longer. If you have poor flexibility, your destined for pain and injury at some point. stretching will help with muscle flexibility and dynamic movement exercises will help with joint flexibility.

Why would you hope I'm wrong? Be thankful that you now have the information that most doctors never tell you. It took me years to figure this out on my own. Doctors had me taking over 15 pills a day from morphine to methadone and everything else in between. When I told them I wanted to heal my body rather than throw pills down my throat they said what do you expect us to do for you if you won't take any pills. Most doctors don't really know how to help and if you really wan't to solve the problem rather than put a band aid on it, you need to research for yourself. Trust but verify.
 
Stretching and Yoga are two great ways to help you out. We have an article on stretching here:

Just saying stretching and yoga are great without specifying types of yoga will not help you out and probably make it worse. I read the article and they are right on point about range of motion. What they recommend is definitely not what should be done for someone with joint or back issues. they are speaking for healthy people without any physical disabilities or injuries. Even then I don't agree with how they say to go about it. Other than that there's still some good information about the benefits of flexibility and range of motion. 30 seconds for each of the exercises they recommend will definitely not warm the body up. It is no where near enough for someone with an ailment like arthritis of the spine. A proper warm up of the muscles and joints especially for the spine should be 4-5 min per exercise.

Every day I do an hour of exercises specifically designed to loosen and increase the range of motion in my spine. I'm flexible enough to do the splits with my chest laying on the ground. I do everything I can to keep a great range of motion. I never hold a stretch and instead move into it and then directly come out of it. If I'm doing a exercise or stretch focusing on extension of the spine, I will then directly follow that by focusing on flexion to keep things balanced. Otherwise it can stress the joint to much and cause pain, stiffness and discomfort. There was only one exercise in that link that did anything for the spine and even then you should warm up the discs a little before going into side twists.

I start out sitting cross legged and holding my ankles. I then continually thrust the center of my spine back and forth while keeping my shoulders in the same location. So only the middle of the spine is moving. This will work the entire spinal column to the neck. this is done for around 4-5min. Then I sit cross legged and hold my knees while I do orbital circles with the center of my spine in one direction for 4-5 min and then switch direction for another 4-5 min. These should be taken very lightly at first until things start to break free and loosen up. May take a couple weeks to a month. If there is any discomfort, back off until you can do it with out. Then still sitting cross legged I hold my shoulders and twist back and fourth for another 4-5 min. Now I can sit with my legs spread and reach for one foot and then the other and never holding for 4 min. then I sit with my legs out in front of me and move back and forth reaching for my feet and then leaning back. It's a constant motion of going back and forth between flexion and extension. Now I can do neck rotations in one direction and then the other taking a breath in when the head is leaned towards the back. This is what I do just for the warm up before I even start my exercises and stretches. so 8 exercises at 30 seconds a piece isn't even close enough to do anything and I guarantee for someone with back problems it will only make it worse.
should be done for someone with joint or back issues. they are speaking for healthy people without any physical disabilities or injuries. Even then I don't agree with how they say to go about it. Other than that there's still some good information about the benefits of flexibility and range of motion. 30 seconds for each of the exercises they recommend will definitely not warm the body up. It is no where near enough for someone with an ailment like arthritis of the spine. A proper warm up of the muscles and joints especially for the spine should be 4-5 min per exercise.

Every day I do an hour of exercises specifically designed to loosen and increase the range of motion in my spine. I'm flexible enough to do the splits with my chest laying on the ground. I do everything I can to keep a great range of motion. I never hold a stretch and instead move into it and then directly come out of it. If I'm doing a exercise or stretch focusing on extension of the spine, I will then directly follow that by focusing on flexion to keep things balanced. Otherwise it can stress the joint to much and cause pain, stiffness and discomfort. There was only one exercise in that link that did anything for the spine and even then you should warm up the discs a little before going into side twists.

I start out sitting cross legged and holding my ankles. I then continually thrust the center of my spine back and forth while keeping my shoulders in the same location. So only the middle of the spine is moving. This will work the entire spinal column to the neck. this is done for around 4-5min. Then I sit cross legged and hold my knees while I do orbital circles with the center of my spine in one direction for 4-5 min and then switch direction for another 4-5 min. These should be taken very lightly at first until things start to break free and loosen up. May take a couple weeks to a month. If there is any discomfort, back off until you can do it with out. Then still sitting cross legged I hold my shoulders and twist back and fourth for another 4-5 min. Now I can sit with my legs spread and reach for one foot and then the other and never holding for 4 min. then I sit with my legs out in front of me and move back and forth reaching for my feet and then leaning back. It's a constant motion of going back and forth between flexion and extension. Now I can do neck rotations in one direction and then the other taking a breath in when the head is leaned towards the back. This is what I do just for the warm up before I even start my exercises and stretches. so 8 exercises at 30 seconds a piece isn't even close enough to do anything and I guarantee for someone with back problems it will only make it worse.
 
I wear back support, for example the Saunders WorkSport. I have compression issues though, not arthritis.
 
A back brace works by hydraulically compressing the mid section which in return causes it to elongate the spine and relieving pressure. It will also provide stability and support. This will benefit someone with compression issues or arthritis. If using for arthritis, you should still work on flexibility and range of motion otherwise the brace will provide support but make you range mod motion worse in the long run making the arthritis worse as well. In combination with dynamic stretches and exercise it can be a very valuable thing to have.

Since the VA supplies all my prosthetic devices, I've tried just about every one you can get. I've got multiple similar to the Saunders and they work well. The braces you normally see people wearing on the job when they're stocking shelves or lifting something provide very little support and are essentially useless. The Saunders would be much better. the best brace out of everything I've tried is made by DeRoyal and the model I like is the Solace. It's small and less restrictive on the sides which doesn't dig into the ribs or hips, which most others do. It's my go to brace for almost everything. I've also got the DeRoyal Ultralign with is larger and provides substantially more support on difficult days. I've had most Aspen braces and haven't found any that I find work well as most of them are to stiff on the sides and either dig into the ribs or hips and also make it difficult to be productive.

I've worn the DeRoyal Solace under my drysuit and it helped quite a bit. A brace like the Saunders would also work well but you wouldn't want to tighten it as much as you normally would. After a while those types of braces will get tight between the ribs and hips. During a long dive where you can't adjust it, might become unpleasant if to tight. When I'm diving wet I use the brace similar to the Saunders on the outside of my wetsuit and it works extremely well.
 
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Thanks for all the feedback so far. Do folks use back braces for decompression dives? If so have you experienced any difficulty with decompression vis a vis restricted blood flow?
 
Normally when I'm using my backtrace, I'm on a manatee tour and very shallow. Haven't worn it much during deco but it's an excellent point to bring up.
 

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