The Third Dive: The Death of Rob Stewart

[Wookie]

Now that is interesting. That certainly hasn't come out in any cross examination in the depositions yet.

The persons deposing don't seem to have accessed a professional mariner, although I know Stewart's parents have hired one....

I'm glad I'm not a lawyer. So many things to keep up with.

 

[Rosborne]

The persons deposing don't seem to have accessed a professional mariner, although I know Stewart's parents have hired one....

I'm glad I'm not a lawyer. So many things to keep up with.

I would like to pass your name on to someone involved in the case. Would you mind?

 

[Wookie]

I would like to pass your name on to someone involved in the case. Would you mind?

I know everyone you know, and am employed by the one I figure you want to pass my name along to.....

 

[Capt Jim Wyatt]

They just took what the local good old boys said was fact and went with it. At the end of the day nobody can say 100% what killed Carlos because nobody did any real forensic examination of the body or the equipment.

I was the local good old boy who analyzed the gas in the presence of Rose Meadows and one of the detectives on scene.

Find rock---> Crawl back under it.

 

[Rosborne]

I was the local good old boy who analyzed the gas in the presence of Rose Meadows and one of the detectives on scene.

Find rock---> Crawl back under it.

If you say so Jim Wyatt, but there wasn't to show any real forensic work had been done in either the medical examiner's report or the police report. So go figure huh. By the way Jim I wanted to add that I have a huge respect for you as a diving instructor and cave diver. I know several of my friends have trained with you and have nothing but great things to say. I was told by the Sheriff's department that Mike O'Leary took the samples. They must have got that wrong.

 

[Rosborne]

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Kate: I thought about doing it but reconsidered. LOL.
For those not familiar...
Carlos is dead because he made a really stupid mistake. Had he spent literally 60 seconds analyzing his gas, he may be alive today. It's no one's fault but his own.
As Kate has eluded to, any goober who produced that drivel years ago about Carlos simply can't be trusted moving forward with anything dive related.

Assuming you're reading skills are average and that you did read the article, you'll remember that my point was to say we dropped the ball on accident analysis by not really doing complete forensic work on how Carlos died. You may be right about how he died but we'll never know 100% for sure. At least those of us who rely on real evidence won't know. By the way that same unhappy circumstance is not the situation in the Rob Stewart case. Some really good forensic work done and it made all the difference. Not the aftermath, that was messed up.

The Third Dive

 

[fullytek]

Rob . For **** sakes. It wasn't a homicide.
Do you think the country police department has the resources to do a full forensic investigation?
They see as many as 5 cave diving fatalities a year . Cave diving is an unforgiving sport. Should every cave diving accident be investigated to the same standards or just this one because he was your friend?

What the hell do you think caused a seizure in 85 feet of water?

There wasn't much of an investigation when scott stitt died last year in superior we still dont really know what happened.
And we miss him every day.

Most forensic investigators lack the decade of technical diving experience to be able to accurately reconstruct the chain of events leading up to the accadent.

In the queen of Nassau accadent I suspect the investigators lack the fundamental understanding of how a rebreather works or fails.

 

[Pavao]

You may be right about how he died but we'll never know 100% for sure.

Hmm, 100%, why do I think this is a clue? 100%, what is it trying to tell me? What did my instructor tell me about 100%? I wish I was a more qualified diver to know. Is it, use 100% O2 on my dives so I don’t get nitrogen loading to avoid the bends? 100%!
Maybe a nitrox diver could tell me, what’s with 100%?

The thing about sensationalism is that the authors just don’t care about anything else, make up absurdities, as long as it gets attention, they must feel successful, no matter how obviously idiotic it is for everybody else in the know. We are not the audience target!

I’m generally not in favor of the “who’s your instructor” response to every time someone screws up, but I’d really like to know this individual instructor’s thought on his former student’s knowledge on mix gas diving. Amazing!

 

[Wookie]

In the queen of Nassau accadent I suspect the investigators lack the fundamental understanding of how a rebreather works or fails.

You would be mistaken, depending on which investigators you are speaking of.

 

[fullytek]

You would be mistaken, depending on which investigators you are speaking of.

Perhaps I'm generalizing. I was drawing parallel to the gennie springs accadent. Your average medical examiner has limited knowledge about sport diving let alone mixed gas tech diving.

Heck most emergency room doctors lack a basic understanding of dive emergencies that's why it's so important to call DAN so you can put them on the phone with the guy in the er and they can speak doctor to each other.

I look forward to the CBC tv movie but sadly this flavor of reporting only brings diving to the public in a negative light.

Both rob and Carlos loved the sport and both loved to share the sport with the world

Rob Stewart wouldn't like to see what this kind of reporting does to the sport he loves and Carlos wouldn't either