Instead of simply beefing about an agencies lower standards, why don't we start offering suggestions to improve situations? Right now, I don't see where the comments flying around lately are doing any more than raising people's blood pressure and fanning flames. I realize that most of the other boards are far worse than this, but still. There has been very little meaningful (read CONSTRUCTIVE) criticism here.
To a layman like me, this all reads like "my agency is better than yours." Well, so what? Give us realistic ideas on how to improve them so that the vacation divers won't be left out.
I mean I didn't dive for years because I thought that you had to be able to graduate Navy Dive school (notice I didn't say SEAL's, I am well aware of the difference) to be worthy to call yourself a diver. I needed a basic course and some dives.
I have seen people that go through the "high standards" courses that are so full of themselves that they quit learning. Is that what we want? I have seen people like me get out that don't stir up the bottom, that don't go up and down like an express elevator, and maybe didn't go through all the exercises that are taught by other agencies but will never be satisfied with their buoyancy and diving knowledge. In the end, the key is that we are always learning. If someone learns that, they will learn to dive properly regardless of who or what organization initially trains them. They will seek out information on how to dive better as I have and most of the people on this board have.
Darwin will claim the arrogant person who quits learning in good time just as he will remove someone from the gene pool who has no common sense and is stupid in something else.
Let's see some realistic ideas instead of insults and one-liners. We are all above this aren't we.
Now, let the debate continue...... (by the way, the two here are not the worst offenders of this by any stretch, so let's not point fingers there either. Let's point them back at ourselves.)
To a layman like me, this all reads like "my agency is better than yours." Well, so what? Give us realistic ideas on how to improve them so that the vacation divers won't be left out.
I mean I didn't dive for years because I thought that you had to be able to graduate Navy Dive school (notice I didn't say SEAL's, I am well aware of the difference) to be worthy to call yourself a diver. I needed a basic course and some dives.
I have seen people that go through the "high standards" courses that are so full of themselves that they quit learning. Is that what we want? I have seen people like me get out that don't stir up the bottom, that don't go up and down like an express elevator, and maybe didn't go through all the exercises that are taught by other agencies but will never be satisfied with their buoyancy and diving knowledge. In the end, the key is that we are always learning. If someone learns that, they will learn to dive properly regardless of who or what organization initially trains them. They will seek out information on how to dive better as I have and most of the people on this board have.
Darwin will claim the arrogant person who quits learning in good time just as he will remove someone from the gene pool who has no common sense and is stupid in something else.
Let's see some realistic ideas instead of insults and one-liners. We are all above this aren't we.
Now, let the debate continue...... (by the way, the two here are not the worst offenders of this by any stretch, so let's not point fingers there either. Let's point them back at ourselves.)
