Scuba Police and/or rules committee

[Jayfarmlaw]

The only scuba police that matter...is the one that looks at you in the mirror every morning. I have met the self appointed scuba police at my local mud hole and been asked where my buddy was.... I simply tell them, your looking at him! other than that, dive your dive, log or don't log, air share or don't. I bought my wife a 5 foot Octo hose and do the same thing on tropical dives. When I hit 1000, I'll breath her down to 1000, then we finish together. It usually stretches the dive out to a point that several people are low on air before us.

Not that you asked....but remember you can ascend 10-15 feet, if the visability allows, and stretch your air considerably.

If you ever want to be totally embarrassed by your sac rate...dive with a teen aged girl. I swear they come up with more air than they started with. I dove with a male teenage athlete that was the same way. Oh to be young again....

Good luck, safe travels,

Jay

 

[TMHeimer]

Of course, you log it anyway you want. Personally, I'd say each person logs the full 92 minutes and decides for themselves how to fill in the box for PSI.

 

[txgoose]

Of course, you log it anyway you want. Personally, I'd say each person logs the full 92 minutes and decides for themselves how to fill in the box for PSI.

I docked my own PSI for something looking like a quasi accurate SAC. Since I keep the notebook of our starting and ending pressures (no AI), I wrote hers for the 1000psi that I started sharing at. Her SAC is calculated mildly low for that dive but she didn't deserve for it to be higher if I noted her actual ending PSI.

 

[Bent Benny]

I have met the self appointed scuba police at my local mud hole and been asked where my buddy was.... I simply tell them, your looking at him!

I ran into the real deal scuba police a couple weeks ago. I drove 1.5hrs to a state park to do some subsurface metal detecting on the beach. Just as I was finishing putting my kit together and donned it, the park manager came screeching up in her green truck. No diving without a buddy at this state park.
I was not very happy about this.

 

[BlueTrin]

I ran into the real deal scuba police a couple weeks ago. I drove 1.5hrs to a state park to do some subsurface metal detecting on the beach. Just as I was finishing putting my kit together and donned it, the park manager came screeching up in her green truck. No diving without a buddy at this state park.
I was not very happy about this.

Did he make up the rule or was it widely advertised ? I

 

[The Chairman]

No diving without a buddy at this state park.

That's true in Florida as well. If you really want to experience the Scuba Popo, go to Blue Spring in Orange City, Fl and dive it in a techie looking kit. You're not allowed flashlights if the entire group is not at least cavern certified and they will almost strip search you looking for that contraband light. Not fun. Have a manatee swim up and interact with you, and it gets really, really bad. Beautiful dive, especially during the week without any waders/bathers in the spring run, but the juice is almost not worth the squeeze due to the park heavy handedness.

 

[Wookie]

I ran into the real deal scuba police a couple weeks ago. I drove 1.5hrs to a state park to do some subsurface metal detecting on the beach. Just as I was finishing putting my kit together and donned it, the park manager came screeching up in her green truck. No diving without a buddy at this state park.
I was not very happy about this.

Just so ya know. Metal detectors are generally prohibited in Maine State Parks, but permits may be obtained to do so.

Scuba Diving may only be done in a state park with a permit.

All of the State Park rules may be found here: Park Rules: Park Passes, Fees & Rules: Bureau of Parks and Lands: Maine ACF

You may not be happy, but you'd be a lot less happy if she has written you a ticket.

 

[Wookie]

Did he make up the rule or was it widely advertised ? I

Took me a single google, and it was the top hit. I googled "Diving in Maine state parks rules"

 

[Sam Miller III]

@txgoose

posted:
"...….Husband is at 500psi. Breathes it down to 400. Wife and husband take the opportunity to practice air share drills. From her tank of course. She begins the buddy breathing about 1000psi, ends at 900psi. Dive is thumbed at 92 minutes. Does hubby get to count all 92 minutes?...…"'
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Yes. you log ALL hyperbaric exposures

An old time consuming post to read which I authored about the history and primary reason for documenting ALL hyperbaric exposures -- From cold mud puddles to clear warm tropical water--

1. 
   "A bit of sage advice -- Log every hyperbaric exposure-- from the swimming pool and your training to mud puddles, quarries to the ocean -- It is all hyperbaric exposure -- the body cannot identify if the water is fresh clear pool water, a mud puddle or ocean salt water.
   
   Your generation is the very first generation in the history of man to experience massive often long term hyperbaric exposure. Who knows what effects such exposure will have on health and longevity ?
   
   Based on the very small samples of those who began diving long before the popularity of recreational diving it is possible that audio and equilibrium systems will be impacted as well as orthopedic involvement in the form of aseptic bone necrosis and yet to be identified or named diving maladies
   
   At this junction in the very short history of diving there is no data to determine if this can or will occur
   
   Never the less I would suggest that you log ALL hyperbaric exposures
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   Some time ago I was raining then I had a exchange with Karen a US nurse who asked a similar question
   The following is my wordy response
   
   "Welcome Karen --(My #2 daughter is named Karene --she has been diving over 45 years)
   
   
   1) Logging dives has been around for a while -- The first US log book was designed in 1955 (63 years ago) by the late Dick Bonin founder of SCUBA Pro and marketed by the long gone company called "Dive Master: of Chicago.
   
   2) The second dive log was designed by Tom Ebro in 1966 (11 years later - 52 years ago ) As a requirement for the LA County Underwater Instructors Association for use in the worlds first ADP, the LA CO three (3) month long many dives Advanced Diver Program, aka ADP and for use in the LA Co UICC, the worlds first underwater training program established in 1954, which continues as the worlds most demanding a prestigious diving instructors training program ,
   
   3) The rest of the diving world did not immediately develop dive logs but when the did they used, aka change the cover and/or patterned their dive logs after LA Counties log book.. Now there are many diving logs in every format-- choose one
   
   4) I am told that some organizations and resorts demand logs be maintained and presented ($$$)
   
   5) I recommend that you maintain a dive log- and take it on every dive trip and log every dive ASAP after the dive.
   Log all that encompass hyperbaric exposure -in deep pool, a mud puddle, a quarry and the ocean- always include date, place depth and time. These entries are not only for your your benefit but are invaluable as you certainly realize for the attending or treating doctor and nurses
   
   Now you know the history of the dive log I suspect you now know considerably more about the history of the dive log that a majority of the current diving community. Perhaps you can and can share these historical tid bits with your fuzzy faced instructor...
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   Your-- the present generation is the first generation in the history of man that has been massively and repeatedly exposed to hyperbaric environments.
   
   ** Certain protocols for safe diving are in place -- slower assents, the safety stops .etc but long term value is undetermined at this juncture in time
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   FYI
   During the 1980s and 1990s we had a loose organization in SoCal called "The fathers of free diving and spear fishing, " which was composed of as the title describes the fathers of free diving and spear fishing -- the ones who formed basis for the current "recreational" diving." All began long before Cousteau arrived in the US in 1948 with his bubble machine . these were the men and occasional woman who were there in the early days of the sport , some in the 1920s, others in began in the 1930s and the youngsters in the 1940s which included me and and my two companions.Allan Wood and Ron Merker (@drbills Instructor)
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   We met periodically and soon noticed our ranks were thinning in numbers and those attending were advancing in age..
   
   It was determined to have one last meeting of what was remaining of the tribe ( no disrespect to native Americans or Canadians First Nations ) but that was our accepted name --no supper duper pooper diver/instructor ...Just a member of the tribe.
   
   2000 was the date..the last gathering of the tribe.. letters were sent, telephoned calls were made and the fathers world wide responded and attended. This was the last great gathering of a group that was privileged and honored to be a participant and observer of a series of events that occurred for a very short time and never ever will be experienced again up on this earth.
   
   The common thread was hearing aids and orthopedic devices all indicated was probably related to diving
   
   That was 18 years ago all of the tribe from the 20s and 30s have departed to the big reef in the sky and only a smattering remain of the 1940s tribe .My fellow "Fathers" who began with me in the 1940s are among those in the big reef in the sky I am now experiencing the long term effect of hyperbaric exposures -- hearing is reduced (a lot!) we all had lots of trauma to the ears and exostosis growth , equilibrium difficulties and a minimum amount of osteonecrosis to the skeletal areas , and of course some expected ambulatory difficulties ....But -- I would not hesitate do it all over again !!! My dear wife and all my five children have been diving in excess of 40 years and all the grand children are on their way as divers . and we are all aware of the possible long term effects
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   fyi
   you might want to google
   * San Diego Bottom Scratcher Spear Fishing club
   * Long Beach Neptune's Spear Fishing club
   * Charlie Sturgil (or my article "The Mask" some where on this board))
   * History of Scuba Diving: Tales from the Abyss
   Pioneers, agencies, gear and more: where did they all come from? What can we learn from their history\
3. Avenue of the Divers: Scuba Legends & Pioneers (Read how it all began)

Sam Miller, 111
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[Bent Benny]

Took me a single google, and it was the top hit. I googled "Diving in Maine state parks rules"

I never even considered that there would be rules about diving at the state park so I never thought to look. You live and you learn I suppose.