I believe Revo Rebreathers is the only manufacturer to have this kind of restriction of where an instructor can train or not train.
Back in the 90s, SSI Instructor Trainers were promised their own region. They could train/sell to people elsewhere but not in someone else’s 'territory'. Same thing. For obvious reasons, SSI tried to make their product/service more attractive to a potential retailer/Instructor Trainer. Understandably, some trainers were pretty pissed when SSI dropped that policy and other ITs were 'invading their' territory as the territory was part of the deal.
Paul would be effing over the South Florida dealer by allowing Jim to train in their territory the same way SSI screwed over some of their 'old' ITs.
As for the 'unfair' to Jim part: I've never been to Key Largo but I'm pretty sure it's just a normal, standard dive destination. What do they have that's special? Warm water, good viz, reef, wrecks, fish... that's what every half decent dive destination has. I understand that this can be a 'protected' region. There are literally hundreds of places like that all around the world. Cave country on the other hand is pretty unique, there aren't many places in the world (I actually can't think of any others) that have warm, easily accessible caves with great infrastructure for divers (there is not much point in using a breather in Mx). Hence, I can understand that this region cannot be given to one person exclusively.
It makes sense to me.
I do understand that Jim feels he is getting the shaft here, but hey, in the end of the day, it's Paul’s business and nobody is forcing Jim to use or train people on the revo. If the other instructors don't like this policy anymore, so what? Apparently, they were Ok with it before.
And Pete, you said we would have a right to know. We really don't. We don't have a right to see SBs internal business stuff either. I sure would like to know internal thinks about a lot of companies out there.
BoulderJohn, I'll answer your question. You're not allowed and Paul has explained to you why more than once... if you’re given a region you can teach there, not in someone else’s. You need to go someplace else or get a different breather.
To all of you guys that think what revo is doing is immoral: You guys are probably wearing stuff, sitting on stuff and typing on stuff that was made by somebody that is making 5 bucks a day (if that) with no health insurance and hardly any rights. Which is then sold by someone who is hardly making enough money to feed his or her family. So, giving a retailer an 'unfair' deal is immoral? You guys gotta be kidding, you must not know anything about the 'normal' business world. Diving is a business like any other, whether you like it or not.
If you guys wanna go after immoral company’s I suggest you get a reality check and learn just a little bit about how you shoes where made and sold.
Just putting stuff into perspective here.
FYI: I don't know Paul, I never used a revo but I think he is being treated unfairly. This thread is most certainly gonna cost him some business and I don't think he deserves that.
Pete, I believe you didn’t mean to but you been sticking it to Paul pretty good.
Sorry for ranting, don’t ban me again SB Mods.
n. They could train people elsewhere but not in someone elses 'territory'. Same thing, for obvious reasons, SSI tried to make their product/service more attactive to a potential retailer/Instructor Trainer.
As for the 'unfair' to Jim part: I've never been to Key Largo but I'm pretty sure it's just a normal, standart dive destination. What do the have that's special? Reef, wrecks, fish... that's what every half decent dive destination has, I understand that this can be a 'protected' region. There are literally hundreds of places like that all around the world. Cave country on the other hand is pretty unique, there aren't many places in the world (I actually can't think of any others) that have warm, easily acceccible caves with great infrastucture for divers (there is not much point in using a breather in Mx). Hence, I can understand that this region can not be given to one person exclusively.
It makes sense to me.
I do understand that Jim feels he is getting the shaft here and that it sucks for him, but hey, in the end of the day, it's Pauls business and nobody is forcing Jim to use or train people on the revo. If the other instructors don't like this policy anymore, so what? Apparently, they were Ok with it before.
And Pete, you said we would have a right to know. We really don't. We don't have a right to see SBs internal business stuff either. I sure would like to know a stuff about a lot of companies out there.
BoulderJohn, I'll answer your question. Your're not allowed and Paul has expained to you why more than once... if you given a region you can teach there, not in someone elses. You need to go some place else or get a different breather.
To all of you guys that think what revo is doing is immoral: You guys are probably wearing stuff, sitting on stuff and typing on stuff that was made by somebody that is making 5 bucks a day (if that) with no health insurance and hardly any rights. Is than sold by someone who is hardly making a enough money to feed his or her family So, giving a retailer an 'unfair' deal is immoral? You guys gotta be kidding, you must not know anything about the 'normal' business world. Diving is a business like any other, whether you like it or not.
If you give guys wanna go after immoral companys I suggest you get a reality check a learn just a little bit about how you shoes were made and sold.
FYI: I don't know Paul, I never used a revo but I think he is being treated unfairly. This thread is most certainly gonna cost him some business and I don't think he deserves that.
Pete, I believe you didn’t mean to but you been sticking it to Paul pretty good.
Sorry for ranting, don’t ban me again SB Mods.
