Reality...Just Asking

[grazie42]

To me, there´s a pretty big difference between looking at a dive and saying: This dive really needs doubles, a reel and a serious plan to be safe but lets do it on an al80 anyway and take a spool to reel off if we get lost, I´m aware of the added risk and accept it.
vs.
I´m a recdiver, the charter boat took us to this wreck. It looks cool, lets go inside.

Both dives may be made on an al80 with a spool but, IMO, one is infintely safer than the other.

It´s the attitude that "this is just a light penetration, there´s a rule that problems only happen on hard penetrations", "a cavern isn´t really a OE-dive", "my DM wouldn´t take me if it wasn´t safe" etc that I find annoying. If you´re stuck in an overhead your lungs won´t give a damn if your 20 or 2000ft from OW, you´ll still die. I don´t have a problem with people willingly accepting a higher risk but people who use catch-phrases like the ones I mentioned as safety blankets and excuses to not think really are a danger to themselves and others, IMO...

 

[Kevrumbo]

. . .Which is why I don't do a serious penetration of the Sea Tiger without using Double AL80's, clear-headed on 21/35mix. Getting hung-up on the grating was just a minor inconvenience (I can still hear Jo Hjelm floating above me, laughing through his regulator) . . .getting stuck on a Single Tank Air Mix is another matter all together:11:

 

[Cacia]

yea..getting stuck would suck.

nice math, BTW.

You know, what would be so fun is to draw the plans in cross section....measure certain critical dimensions and show the whole wreck. I am still confused about certain places like the way to the galley from the engine room.

To me, there´s a pretty big difference between looking at a dive and saying: This dive really needs doubles, a reel and a serious plan to be safe but lets do it on an al80 anyway and take a spool to reel off if we get lost, I´m aware of the added risk and accept it.
vs.

yea, point taken.

I do want a photo of the statue but my guru did not let me take the camera under the grate. Good call, I'm sure. We saw a huge Manta BTW, on the stop.

Are the grates part of the holds or were they put in to close it off?

some of that is refridgeration tubing

 

[ScubaAndDreams]

You know, what would be so fun is to draw the plans in cross section....measure certain critical dimensions and show the whole wreck. I am still confused about certain places like the way to the galley from the engine room.

That's one of many things I want to do over the next 6-8 months.....and I hope Jay will help me do it (after I am done with him that is)

 

[Cacia]

really? You should!

I wanted to do it and asked Justleesa to draw it...

But I know I would not be able to execute the dives for all the hallways.

I was planning to photograph areas and then try and re-construct from that.

You should see leesa's drawings of the YO... artistic, but I would love to see a clever combination drawing.

The only plans I have are the one I got from Captain Carl.

 

[ScubaAndDreams]

been planning on it for some time now, matter of fact I think I mention it somewhere on my website. It'll take some planning (when I say some, I mean a lot) though. I don;t even have Capt Carl's plans...even though I was asking/looking for a set of plans when I first got here.

 

[mrjimboalaska]

and from what I understand, the grate has been pulled back far enough even I could squeeze thru...........

 

[Cacia]

Oh..maybe they pulled it back some more. When I went it was a tight fit and I remember thinking doubles would be tough for a big guy.

 

[fishb0y]

Oh..maybe they pulled it back some more. When I went it was a tight fit and I remember thinking doubles would be tough for a big guy.

Jeesh Catherine... are you implying Jim is a big guy? I think of him as a petite plus

 

[rockjock3]

That's one of many things I want to do over the next 6-8 months.....and I hope Jay will help me do it (after I am done with him that is)

I am there. I was actually thinking that would be something cool to do once I have the training and am ready.

I think if we are very methodical about it that it won't be too hard. It will take time and p.e.r.f.e.c.t planning though.