lamont:
I'm definitely not selling anything. I'm arguing on the internet because I'm procrastinating trying to figure out why openssh is vapor locking on our x86/64 RHEL3 installs...
Have you ever noticed how whenever you're on the "DIR side" of a debate that the other side always tries to psychoanalyze your motives?
The point is that often the comments aren't coming from the other side. They're usually coming from the middle but because lines are being drawn it's always portrayed as the other side:05:
Let's face it some people are just more anal than other's. If you're an engineer it's a good trait for your job. If you're a writer being anal probably doesn't help your creativity.
For Cave/Wreck diving you would find very little comments coming from the other side because there probably wouldn't be an other side. There wouldn't be a need to use extreme or contorted logic to make every point as there is when taking tech methods and moving them to the rec world and and not allowing for any deviation. It's 100% compliant or your on the other side:05:
Some people just don't like to join groups, any groups. Or to quote group leaders or to have to check in with someone to see how the group is thinking this month.
Again, why have to try so hard to convince others that you have the only answer. It's not particularly effective when it's the Jehova Witnesses at my front door and it doesn't really work well for any other group that I can think of. The real message gets lost because of the way the messge is delievered.:05:
For what it's worth I dive with a BP/W, Jetfins with springs, long hose but it's 40", necklaced second. I don't use a 7' hose. I do use light signals when they work but I use a Light Cannon. I do value buddy skills but most of my buddies aren't as good in that respect as most of yours. I do use a pony bottle and occassionaly solo dive to take pictures, get used to new gear (depending on the gear).
There's no reason for me to be other the other side. I'm in the middle. I don't like group mentality so I'll always be somewhere in the middle. No everyone is like me and that's why we have different diving styles but it's not necessary to bolster one side's argument by drawing lines and making it us against them. Labels don't work in politics because people are people and everyone wants the same things more or less. Labels just divide. Divers are divers and all want to be safe and all want to enjoy diving.
Gray