Nitrox VIP Sticker not good enough?

[Genesis]

Anyone who picks up a tank and connects it to their regulator without KNOWING what is inside it deserves what they get.

Contents labels are affixed right near the valve on the neck of the tank. You'd have to intentionally not pay attention to miss it.

 

[pt40fathoms]

Anyone who picks up a tank and connects it to their regulator without KNOWING what is inside it deserves what they get.

Contents labels are affixed right near the valve on the neck of the tank. You'd have to intentionally not pay attention to miss it.

Clearly you have never been in a setting with a large number of students, all at various stages of the OW course, with the associated buzz of activity, trying to keep things moving as any good DM should do:
"Your in next, have you got your log book filled out, do you know where your buddy is your with the next group, have you changed tanks yet, what tank pressure are you starting with." Then the students add: "Where's the washroom again, do we have time for a snack, I here a funny sound from this reg is it normal, my fin strap just broke their waiting for me in water right now do you have a spare, I think my o-ring is missing, can my wife swim with us while we take the course"........and a thousand other questions, problems, and little events, all happening at the same time!

So if in all this confusion, the student who is in a rush to get ready for dive # 2, picks up a tank and fails to look for that little insignificant contents sticker, because they are just overwhelmed by all the excitement and new experience. Connects that tank to their reg and uses it. It's too bad for them, cause they are just stupid. Is that what you are saying? In the real world, people have faults and make mistakes, and some people take longer to learn than others. In the real world we try to remove as many possibilities for errors, in as obvious a means as possible. This means we put an easy to recognize, easy to see label on any tank that contains a compressed gas other than air. If this simple concept is lost on some people, and no amount of logical rational explanation will convince them that this is a good idea. Then I only hope they are never in a position of instruction or guidance. If they are, I pity the students.

 

[Boogie711]

You know, if I was diving with single Aluminum 80's on a yoke valve, maybe you'd have a point.

But I don't. I also don't spread my gear around with other peoples stuff. But any OW student is going to get awfully confused when they go to 'grab a tank' and try to mount their reg on one of my steel tanks with a DIN valve. Or hook up a set of my doubles.

 

[chrpai]

You know, if I was diving with single Aluminum 80's on a yoke valve, maybe you'd have a point.

But I don't. I also don't spread my gear around with other peoples stuff. But any OW student is going to get awfully confused when they go to 'grab a tank' and try to mount their reg on one of my steel tanks with a DIN valve. Or hook up a set of my doubles.

This is a perfect example of why I don't like a certain school of thought around here. The 'one hammer fits all' approach. It sounds great for the diving that YOU do, but as soon as you try to apply it to all diving situations problems arise. Only no one will ever admit there is a problem with it. They will go to all ends of the world to prove its the other divers fault.

 

[Genesis]

So if in all this confusion, the student who is in a rush to get ready for dive # 2, picks up a tank and fails to look for that little insignificant contents sticker, because they are just overwhelmed by all the excitement and new experience. Connects that tank to their reg and uses it.

Here is an example of this "insigificant" contents sticker:

How do you miss THAT and manage to actually tighten your yoke screw?!

 

[DeepScuba]

PT you sound like you're diving in a quarry bud. Those depths don't matter.

Besides, where the heck is there a LAKE deep enough to get wet in MB anyways!

heheheh

ANd you've already told everyone the answer...............NEWB # 1 picks up a tank for dive # 2 and FAILS to look.

What have we been saying for 5 pages?

You can't miss it where WE put it.......Duh. You'd have to TRY and miss it.

Besides, it's a quarry in MB.

If it wasn't, you wouldn't have 30 people strewn about on a blue tarp!

You'd have an organized boat! How the hell do you two dive? (PT & Chrpai).

Seriously.

If the class is that disorganized get a grip, it ain't doing anyone any good.

Yes one hammer fits all..........Darwin bought that hammer.........he'll smack down any dumb-a$$

regards fellas.

Oh yeah PT, I used to live in Winter-peg. It was the longest 10 years of my life from 18 to 20 years of age

 

[DeepScuba]

Aw Genesis:

The tape fell off, and the guy's color blind.

Besides, you can still tighten the yoke, and the 3000PSI of air will also rip through the tape and provide plenty of "air".

Darwin is slow to act sometimes

 

[Genesis]

If you're so disorganized during training that you have students hooking up the wrong tank, when "wrong" is clearly identified as NOT being a rental and having this funny sticker on it that they either don't understand or DO understand (but ignore), then you have MUCH bigger problems with your class than whether or not someone else at the Quarry has a Nitrox sticker on their tank.

IMHO such an "instructor" isn't and has no business certifying anything - or anyone.

 

[DeepScuba]

Actually guys, there's "nicer" fellas discussing this same thing as we speak in the thread "Cylinder Markings".

 

[Mo2vation]

OK folks...

There is good stuff in here. Excellent, passionate debate. Laced in the useful content is actually some wit, some sarcasm and even a little irony. So far, I'm liking it.

But like so many threads these days, its circling the drain with personal jabs that simply don't add value to its worthy content. The personal stuff is beneath you smart, funny people. The dialog here is too cool to kill with all that crapola.

I wacked the entire thread. I was just sick of it. Mike F called me on it - I thought about it, took another read, and I put it back lightly sanitized for your protection. Some posts I killed, others I just notched out.

Lets try to keep things on topic and keep the personal jabs out of it. You got a problem with someone, PM them and call them a jerk - don't do it here.

There is stuff in here that is too good to throw in the trash.

Thanks -

Ken
Sleep deprived Mod du'jour