NAET and asthma

[scubaren]

It's snake oil. But people who think they respond well to one type of snake oil will in all likelihood respond to other types of snake oil. It's called the Placebo Effect.

Ask yourself this: What is the scientifically proved mechanism of action by which this "natural" treatment works? Modern medicine works -that's one of the big reasons why our mortality rate is significantly lower now than during the dark ages.

Physiology 101, Basic Chemistry, and Anatomy & Physiology should be required courses for high school students. It would cut down on these scam artists who rip people off and prey on their fears.

But that's just my educated opinion.

I'm curious regarding your opinion on acupuncture. Is acupuncture "snake oil"? Do you believe it is effective? It has worked for me. NAET is based on the principals used in acupuncture treatment.

You are entitled to your educated opinion. Do you have allergies to anything you know of? If so I'd suggest you try the simple muscle response test of several items of the same weight. Hold one item in one hand at your side. Hold your other arm straight out in front of you. Have someone push down on your extended arm. Then do it for the other item. You will notice a vast difference in the item you are allergic to. This does work even for people who are skeptics!

There are things in our lives that are not completely understood by man. Scientists, physicians, chemists do not know everything. If they did there would be no ongoing research. We all face aging and disease. It is a given. Rather than label a successful treatment as "snake oil" I'd like to see research into why it works. We as humans could learn an entire new method of healing that is totally non-invasive.

Twenty or so years ago chiropractic was not at all accepted in the medical community. So many people had success with chiropractic that it is accepted today and insurance companies pay for it. The push for acceptance was by people in the population who had success with it. I suspect the same will happen with NAET.

I do not understand the aggressive continued negative response to a treatment that works. In fact, everyone here who has responded has never tried NAET! This treatment gives people back their lives. It cures allergies.

It is working for me and I will keep you posted.

 

[scubaren]

I just looked into attending seminars in CA for NAET. Interested people need to have prior orthodox medical certification (M.D., D.O., R.N., etc.) or training in acupuncture or oriental medicine to attend. I would think that people that earned medical degrees would not want to tarnish their names with "snake oil" scams.

 

[scubaren]

taken from an article on the history of acupuncture:

In Europe oriental medical research is very active and quite advanced. Spain has an acupuncture school called Golden Clover. Germany, Austria and Italy all have very strong and active acupuncture centers. England has no organized acupuncture medical activity but there is a British Medical Acupuncture society which is quite active. France has pioneered ear acupuncture through its famous center in Lyons under the leadership of Dr. Nogier (he recently died)

As you see, acupuncture is practiced worldwide. In the United States more and more practitioners are now developing knowledge and new skills in acupuncture. Many are incorporating all the modalities from the various countries, using hand, ear, Chinese, Japanese and scalp acupuncture along with Russian reflexology and adapting these techniques to the modern times with use of modern technology to produce what is now called American Acupuncture.

In 1996 in America, needles were removed from the "investigative" category to "accepted medical instruments". Being investigative, allowed insurance companies to deny payment for medical acupuncture treatment. There is a bill before congress with 12 sponsors to allow Medicare to pay for acupuncture treatments. The National Institute of Health for the first time has formed a department of Alternative Health care to provide needed research funding in alternative avenues of medical care.

Times are changing and American Acupuncture is alive and well!


Snake oil?

 

[scubaren]

from same article:

In 1972 President Nixon opened the doors to China. A New York Times journalist James Reston was in China at the time and had an emergency appendectomy with acupuncture used as the anesthetic. This brought great noteriety to acupuncture and renewed interest in this form of treatment. Seeing brain surgery performed with acupuncture drew big headlines.

Europe was introduced to acupuncture from French Indochina (now Vietnam). The French sparked interest with the works of Dr. Nogier who from 1951 to 1996 produced a great deal of research on ear acupuncture which today is used as the basis of treatment for addictions and compliments oriental body acupuncture. This pioneer died in 1996 and his works are now being published for the first time in English.

 

[scubaren]

also excerpt from article:

In America there are about 8000 acupuncturists. 16 acupuncture schools, and 2 medical schools teaching acupuncture. UCLA medical school has been teaching acupuncture to physicians under the leadership of Dr.Joseph Helms. In 18 states, only doctors can perform acupuncture. Border states like Florida, California, and New York allow non physicians to perform acupuncture.All require licensing.

An organization the American Academy Of Medical Acupuncture (AAMA) based in California, has a membership of nearly 1000 physician members from the entire country. All physicians who are members must have been previously accredited by formal training and certification. About 25% of these physicians work in pain centers around America.

 

[Web Monkey]

Times are changing and American Acupuncture is alive and well!

Snake oil?

Placebo. Which is not to say that it isn't effective in pain management.

OTOH, there is no claim that acupuncture cures allergies.

Terry

 

[Web Monkey]

I would think that people that earned medical degrees would not want to tarnish their names with "snake oil" scams.

Are you serious? Just like the rest of the world, there are MDs that will do pretty much anything for a buck.

I see them on TV every night selling everything from "weight loss" pills to mattresses.

Terry

 

[scubaren]

Are you serious? Just like the rest of the world, there are MDs that will do pretty much anything for a buck.

I see them on TV every night selling everything from "weight loss" pills to mattresses.

Terry

Yeah, I guess you are right. They would probably even say an alternative therapy won't work just so they could continue to make a buck off of a patient. After all, if someone is cured they don't need the doctor for the problem anymore.

 

[scubaren]

Placebo. Which is not to say that it isn't effective in pain management.

OTOH, there is no claim that acupuncture cures allergies.

Terry

Check this out:

Acupuncture and Seasonal Allergies

 

[scubaren]

The discovery of acupuncture/acupressure treatment for curing allergies has happened within the last 20 or so years. This is really a very short time period for awareness of the treatment in general. The lack of awareness in much of the population on the technique makes it no less efficacious for those who are treated. There is most certainly a lack of funding for ads or research (clinical trials) as eastern medicine is not plugged into the pharmaceutical frenzy. I shudder to think of new medications that have been quickly approved by the FDA then later are removed as they are found to cause much more harm than good. It's too bad we are not as cynical with regard to all those commercials on TV that prod us "ask your doctor" about this new medication or that one.