Local Man drowns at Jackson Blue Springs

[Spectre]

There is also this amazing video of Jackson Blue. The main tunnel is actually as big as a subway tunnel. Its the side tunnels that get tight.

http://www.laukien.org/JacksonBlueSept2006.wmv

Thanks John, yea... I wanted to look for that today, but I didn't remember where it was [only that it's on my laptop somewhere]

About 2 1/2 minutes in, they are going down from the cavern area [30'-50'] to the main cave at about 90 feet.

At just short of 4 minutes in the camera man swims around the diver. At the very start, you can see the entrance to Goodman, and when he finishes the swim around you'll see the gold-line and two arrows [a red and a white] [@ 4:06] and the entrance to Young on the left of the frame.

Just after that they come to the first breakdown.

There's a great shot of Young Syphon on their way back out [7:30ish].

 

[Rick Murchison]

Thanks John, yea... I wanted to look for that today, but I didn't remember where it was [only that it's on my laptop somewhere]

About 2 1/2 minutes in, they are going down from the cavern area [30'-50'] to the main cave at about 90 feet.

At just short of 4 minutes in the camera man swims around the diver. At the very start, you can see the entrance to Goodman, and when he finishes the swim around you'll see the gold-line and two arrows [a red and a white] [@ 4:06] and the entrance to Young on the left of the frame.

Just after that they come to the first breakdown.

There's a great shot of Young Syphon on their way back out [7:30ish].

That's one sweet piece of work... either of those guys up here or on TDS?
Rick

 

[redrover]

http://www.laukien.org/JacksonBlueSept2006.wmv

Gee this thing is a long download….

Mahalo to Spectre, books are ordered.

 

[Rick Murchison]

Gee this thing is a long download….

550 MB.
Rick

 

[Dive-aholic]

That's Goodman and it starts in the first room, that's actually before the first breakdown. I've not actually been through the whole passage yet; there's a duck-under that I don't really like the looks of. Past the first breakdown pile there's a big rock on the left with a line behind it. About 10 feet down that there's another line to the left... which is the other end of that 'squirrely' passage.

But if you keep on that line, it comes around and comes back down near a line that goes up high. That's more about the right distance; but I'm not even sure if that's far enough in.

Maybe if they were doing it from the other side and not starting at goodman, it makes sense... but; I dunno.

I'm familiar with all of those lines. I just haven't done all of the jumps yet...too many jumps not enough time.

At first I thought it was a jump back by the 2nd breakdown, then other reports came out. Now I'm just confused. I've been checking IUCRR but there's no report yet. If you head that way this weekend and find out more, please let me know.

That's actually something that's been in discussions with between the sheriff's office and the divers. I'm not sure the status of it.

I suppose people could slip by the sheriff's office by just saying their on record, but I wouldn't want to get caught, since I've seen them flip through the book before. Every other time I've seen them card very religiously.

They've got some new dispatchers there that aren't sure about the procedures. From what I understand, the OW divers that signed in didn't try to hide anything. They showed AOW cards, paid their $25, and went diving.

I've also seen single tank divers back by the horseshoe jump (50' area). I would have escorted them out, but when we got to the park that night (yes night as in dark) a deputy was setting up with his kids, in single tanks rigs. There were no boats in the area.

 

[Dive-aholic]

How do we know the victim was pushing the limits? No card doesn't mean no training. The article states he's been diving for 20 years, but how do we know they didn't botch that up and it's been 40 years? The victim has been diving the area caves for several years. It sounds like he had the experience to be in JB. He might even have had the training. He just didn't have the card.

No one here knows enough about the incident (or at least no one is fessing up) to make that determination. Was he truly pushing the limits or was this just his time? His rig was off, but one newspaper says he still had air in his tanks. That makes me wonder if there weren't some other factors involved.

The IUCRR hasn't posted a report yet. Any idea when that will go up, Kelly?

 

[ianr33]

I've also seen single tank divers back by the horseshoe jump (50' area).

Whats wrong with that? Assuming they were on the gold line and had H/Y valves ?

 

[Dive-aholic]

Whats wrong with that? Assuming they were on the gold line and had H/Y valves ?

They weren't and they didn't. You can't see the jump line from the gold line and vice versa. It's about a 50' jump or so over some break down rocks that impede the line of sight.

Also, when I said 50' area, I was referring to depth. The horseshoe jump runs a circuit from the 50' deep section down to the 95' deep section. The 50' deep section starts about 250' into the cave, definitely not within the cavern zone. The 95' deep section starts about 300' into the cave.

 

[ianr33]

They weren't and they didn't.

In that case I understand your concern.

 

[maj75]

The "Pushing Limits" was a general comentary in response to those who feel that anyone who dives without a certification sub-specialty card is pushing it.