GUE Standards V8 released

[sea_otter]

imo i dont really get rec 3, why not just take tech 1 to start off with?

Rec 3's primary focus is to build midwater skills and introduce the use of a stage. It does a nice job of bridging the gap to a tech pass, but it is also serves as a nice option for the diver who mainly wants to do "recreational" doubles dives with a small amount of deco on back gas. It may not be appropriate for everyone, but I think it's a valuable class.

 

[Compressor]

A bit of topic (i'm sorry) but for people who have taken Fundies 1 or 2 or the full course and did not pass on the first time, what was the typical fee to retake the course?

 

[sea_otter]

A bit of topic (i'm sorry) but for people who have taken Fundies 1 or 2 or the full course and did not pass on the first time, what was the typical fee to retake the course?

Hi @compressor,

I can't speak for others but I can say that our local instructor charges $250 per day for private teaching outside of classes. That can be split between multiple divers as appropriate.

My situation was a bit different, but I was unable to finish a class because I came down with a cold and could not dive. I was able to join another class (with a student who needed a buddy anyhow) for no additional charge aside from gas and boats. My instructor was more than accommodating.

 

[_Ralph]

A bit of topic (i'm sorry) but for people who have taken Fundies 1 or 2 or the full course and did not pass on the first time, what was the typical fee to retake the course?

One typically doesn't need to retake a whole course. Once you have been given your assessment on where your strengths and weaknesses are, you can then go and work on those areas that need working/polishing. You can then (before the 6 month limit on your provisional pass) come back for a 'show me' style dive.

Usually, if done within a reasonable amount of time (within the 6 month time frame), at no expense to the instructor (i.e. you travel to them if any travel is required), and they are free that day, there may be no cost (at least with the half dozen instructors that I know). There isn't (AFAIK) an 'official' cost.

There may be costs involved if travel is required, going to a different instructor for an evaluation, out of time frame evaluation, any additional teaching/mentoring, 2nd/3rd/4th attempt, etc.

To retake a course, typically it is the whole cost. A separate deal may be made with the instructor on their fee's.

While not a fundies course, I've hopped in on several other courses (i.e. DPV, Documentation) as a 2nd/3rd teammate several times for a portion or the whole duration of a course. Only costs were my usual expenses to dive (travel, gas, charter/entrance fees, etc).

_R

 

[KevinNM]

Hi @compressor,

I can't speak for others but I can say that our local instructor charges $250 per day for private teaching outside of classes. That can be split between multiple divers as appropriate.

My situation was a bit different, but I was unable to finish a class because I came down with a cold and could not dive. I was able to join another class (with a student who needed a buddy anyhow) for no additional charge aside from gas and boats. My instructor was more than accommodating.

It varies by instructor. And what you blew. I've seen people not get a pass because they just didn't get part of the classroom stuff, and the instructor will work with you on that by email etc. Or so I have seen.

In water stuff, sometimes you can show up at another class they are running and show them your stuff while the main students are changing tanks or something. With some instructor the first time you do that is free and then you pay something. If you need more instruction then it that has a fee that the instructor sets. It will normally be a few hundred (at least) per day. But really, getting a rec pass is not that hard once you start to understand what you are really doing in the water and hence why the instructor is making that funny motion.

Tech passes are hard, at least for most of us.

 

[Lorenzoid]

I got a provisional rec pass on my first try (only the full course was offered back then), and arranged to come back when the instructor had another Fundies class in progress. I joined that class for two days. I don't recall the cost because after all I had invested in time and money to get to that point, that was the least of my concerns. I recall it being very reasonable, though. The greater costs were travel and lodging.

 

[johnkendall]

I got a provisional rec pass on my first try (only the full course was offered back then), and arranged to come back when the instructor had another Fundies class in progress. I joined that class for two days. I don't recall the cost because after all I had invested in time and money to get to that point, that was the least of my concerns. I recall it being very reasonable, though. The greater costs were travel and lodging.

Just to pick up on this. There's no such thing as a provisional rec pass (or provisional tech pass), there is simply a provisional pass.

For me, if I can arrange it for a student to be re-evaluated while I'm doing something else then I don't generally charge anything. If I need to put on an event specially to do the re-eval then I charge.

Hth
John