Howard (and to a lesser extent, Jim)
You guys are obviously at the point in your diving where you know your limits and feel rightly empowered to thumb a dive when those limits are breached.
Please try and remember back to a time when this was not the case and cut this poster some slack. He's already learned some huge lessons here and the posts are getting needlessly righteous.
When we are new at any activity, there are always points in time when to some extent we have little choice to trust the judgment or logistics of professionals running the show. When you one new, you often don't know what you don't know.
A book might describe what heavy seas are like that are too rough to dive. But if you have never encountered those Seas and you see your guides and all other divers climbing in, my guess is a large percentage of neophyte divers will follow.Sometimes it is just too early to know until you've been there.
If my instructor and guide told me in the briefing that the dive-ending pressure was 1800 psi and he continued the dive after I signaled this pressure, you can bet that it would be confusing and unsettling to most any new diver , whether this was still enough air to safely finish the dive or not.In that position, any new diver would be justified in assuming that the turn pressure was arrived at for good reason (depth, currents, distance to be covered, sea condition, etc.) and to go beyond that previously described limit wind easily be unsettling.
A forum like this (and event reporting) seems best served when senior divers can lend insights and advice without the kind of ego-baggage that will turn off any listener to the advice in the first place, even if it is very good advice...
You guys are obviously at the point in your diving where you know your limits and feel rightly empowered to thumb a dive when those limits are breached.
Please try and remember back to a time when this was not the case and cut this poster some slack. He's already learned some huge lessons here and the posts are getting needlessly righteous.
When we are new at any activity, there are always points in time when to some extent we have little choice to trust the judgment or logistics of professionals running the show. When you one new, you often don't know what you don't know.
A book might describe what heavy seas are like that are too rough to dive. But if you have never encountered those Seas and you see your guides and all other divers climbing in, my guess is a large percentage of neophyte divers will follow.Sometimes it is just too early to know until you've been there.
If my instructor and guide told me in the briefing that the dive-ending pressure was 1800 psi and he continued the dive after I signaled this pressure, you can bet that it would be confusing and unsettling to most any new diver , whether this was still enough air to safely finish the dive or not.In that position, any new diver would be justified in assuming that the turn pressure was arrived at for good reason (depth, currents, distance to be covered, sea condition, etc.) and to go beyond that previously described limit wind easily be unsettling.
A forum like this (and event reporting) seems best served when senior divers can lend insights and advice without the kind of ego-baggage that will turn off any listener to the advice in the first place, even if it is very good advice...