Fold up fins, so you can easily walk into the water

[Iceguy4]

To Hank 49

because your post was not well thought out. (i see you deleted it) swimming with a scuba tank in 1 foot of water is rediculus. would you have that sting ray you mentioned poke you in the face??? and you do this to protect marine life???

 

[Kim]

because your post was not well thought out. (i see you deleted it) swimming with a scuba tank in 1 foot of water is rediculus. would you have that sting ray you mentioned poke you in the face??? and you do this to protect marine life???

I'm confused...... his post is still there as far as I can see......

I also start swimming from about that depth - well at least half swimming!

 

[The Chairman]

I just read it as a statement of disinterest really.

Really now... OK Kim, in the spirit of showing my apathy, I say you're a half assed diver.

No really, there is no animosity in that term. Just because we have never dove together doesn't mean that my opinion isn't worth as much as any one of your dive buddies, right?

 

[Iceguy4]

Why would this indicate...prove... a lack of common sense?

To Hank 49

because your post was not well thought out. (i see you deleted it) swimming with a scuba tank in 1 foot of water is rediculus. would you have that sting ray you mentioned poke you in the face??? and you do this to protect marine life???

I'm confused...... his post is still there as far as I can see......

I also start swimming from about that depth - well at least half swimming!

My mistake about him deleting his post...I'm a

 

[Kim]

Really now... OK Kim, in the spirit of showing my apathy, I say you're a half assed diver.

No really, there is no animosity in that term. Just because we have never dove together doesn't mean that my opinion isn't worth as much as any one of your dive buddies, right?

I probably AM a half assed diver in the opinion of many! For myself I get by though....

As for your opinion - of course it's worth as much - which considering that I don't believe you or I have actually tried these fins should probably both be taken with the same pinch of salt.

It doesn't mean though, that neither of us can have an opinion, or impression, or whatever - positive or negative.

As for my dive buddies!!!! Oh dear...... I wish. The young lady who accompanied me to Thailand is leaving Japan in July - although someone else did PM me from Fukuoka last week so maybe I'll gain a new one soon. Jim and all the guys up near Tokyo are nearly 2000 kms away! :11:

 

[Stu S.]

There's a product I needed. I had to walk across slippery river rocks with a current. The water was up around my crotch and waist when I tried to put the fins on. Up on one foot with all that gear on and.... slip! Right on my rear end.

My moment was captured on video and became a beer-time favorite with my pals. It seems a man falling down in this century is juat as funny as the silent movies of 100 years back.

If I made that dive on a regular basis, I would give these fins real consideration.

Stu.

 

[RJP]

Let me guess...RJP owns a dive shop...

Not even close. I'm simply a guy with a keyboard who lacks the restraint to prevent me from sharing my own hal fassed opinions.

 

[Walter]

What's funny is that even though I spotlighted your "solution in search of a problem" line, both Walter and Kim somehow think I am talking about THEM.

Where did you get that?

I said, "I hope someone will please explain to me why so many folks seem to think RJP and others hate these fins?"

The angst over my position about cyber divers testing gear in their minds is amazing. Here I thought people would RATHER listen to first hand reports than opinions based on mere assumptions.

You are inventing opinions that don't exist. Yes RJP did say:

A hal fassed solution in search of a problem.

but he later said:

I was probably a bit short-sighted in my assertion that the problem does not exist at all.

I will admit that there is a limited niche for this product, though having dived Casino Point myself and having just completed a week of 30+ shore dives I'm still not convinced that the benefit is tremendous. For folks that dive in conditions that do, I'm glad to hear there's finally a product that allows you to address this problem.

People are not putting down these fins, they are merely raising questions about them.

 

[Splitlip]

This thread has spiraled into crap. Negativity, word parsing and silly premises about scuba in 1 ft of water.
FWIW,most beach divers I know put their fins on after the water begins to support their weight. 1 ft does not cut it. Even then they often shuffle backwards. At least these fins permit an eyes forward entrance to avoid crunching marine life.
I have not used the fins, but has anybody mentioned that they unclip and lock into battery with the 1st kick cycles? I did see that in the video at a dive expo.
And I did hold them. Did not feel much different than a Mares Quatro. Lighter than Jets by far it seemed.

 

[RJP]

As Gombessa has pointed out the line " A hal fassed solution in search of a problem." just didn't give me the warm fuzzies. As I asked Walter, do you see this somehow as a compliment or at all positive?

OK, let's not pretend to be so naive. My original post was clearly not a compliment, nor was it at all positive. If nothing else I thought that was the one thing that we all agreed upon.



However I was as much indicting "the problem" as the solution. At the risk of being completely pedantic I said "...in search of a solution" and not the more extreme "...to a problem that doesn't exist."

Clearly the product has found at least three people that have the problem that the product attempts to solve. (Or one of the 25 the manufacturer cites, including being first on the chow line after the dive.) That's great. I'm now shifting my attention back to split fins (tried them, hate them) Air2's (tried them, hate them) standard length reg hoses (tried them, hate them) BCDs with elevator levers (never tried them, try not to laugh at them) and SpareAir's (c'mon, you gotta give me that one.)