Failed CESA in OW
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Weighting in a drysuit is a very individual thing. The late TS&M (Lynne), who disappeared on a dive in 2015, was a very petite woman by all accounts and photos. I remember a post where she recounted how some guy from the internet had been poking at her for diving with 30lbs, even with steel doubles. She apparently hated being cold and had thick undies. She noted the guy stopped harassing her about using so much weight after he dived with her once.
So while you (general you) might think 12kg in a drysuit is too much or too little for you, it’s going to be different for everyone. I did OW and drysuit at the same time as the OP is doing. I also had to redo my CESA once at the quarry.
So while you (general you) might think 12kg in a drysuit is too much or too little for you, it’s going to be different for everyone. I did OW and drysuit at the same time as the OP is doing. I also had to redo my CESA once at the quarry.
CuzzA
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Lynne also probably shouldn't have been doing any challenging dives due to her vertigo while diving.
On a trip a few years ago we saw first hand what vertigo does to a diver. We were diving the Florida Middle Grounds and a guy diving with us revealed his vertigo issues. My buddy thought for sure he was going to drown.
Nevertheless. Balanced rig.
I would have a talk with the instructor first. With that said it sounds like they are 100% failing you as a instructor and I would be worried what they also might be doing/missing in other areas of the class. With that said if you know something is not right in your case to much weight then speak up because it is life and death on the line. https://www.kpax.com/news/crime-and...ed the events,Lake MacDonald in November 2020.
I would prefer not to have Lynne's reputation besmirched.
Lynne was a very careful diver who very much played by all the rules. You will never meet any diver who more carefully did predive checklists (etc.). She was as thoroughly educated about diving as possible, taking multiple classes from well known instructors. She was indeed petite, and she was very fit.
I dived with her in tropical waters and in the coolness of Puget Sound. I dived with her in open water and in caves. Yes, she did indeed need more weight than you would expect for someone of her size. Yes, she did indeed need that weight. I know others like her, people who are highly experienced and knowledgeable and who need more weight than you would expect.
Her death was a tragedy that had nothing to do with any of this. She and her husband Peter were diving a challenging site and got caught some kind of a current vortex that tossed both around. When it was done, Peter saw her, and she was OK. He looked away for a moment, and when he looked back, she was gone. She was never found. It is impossible to say what happened.
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You need a weight check, not some app! This is something that needs real-world applications.
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Where did you find this PADI standard depth? While the eLearning discusses buoyant emergency ascents, it doesn't state a depth threshold currently and I haven't been able to find one (not in the eLearning, instructor manual, or guide to teaching anyway). The eLearning also states that you'd be doing a CESA, but dropping your weights and exceeding the safe rate of ascent as a result (and mentions flaring out as you near the surface to slow some). That seems to imply dropping the weights while at your maximum depth, not waiting until you're at a given depth to do so.
I personally believe that unless you're over-weighted due to being in a tech configuration that necessitates a negative buoyancy, you should always be able to do a CESA during a recreational dive and shouldn't have to perform a buoyant ascent.
It's normal to struggle. Drysuit diving comes with its challenges at first. Adding a little bit of weight is also common - IF you are underweighted.
Doesn't sound normal.
You must carry too much weight.
Reduce weights. Dive in the shallows. You need four feet of water to dive. Once that works, and the weights are ok, then you can easily venture deeper. Did you do a buoyant or swimming ascent?
Certainly not. You had too much of something. And on an OWD course it is not your fault.
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