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Congratulations on your weight loss.

I am somewhat surprised by this video. I have not ever taken any training in scooters, but it seems to me that a diver should be entirely 100% prepared for the thing to take off at any moment. So I ASSUME that an integral part of the training would include how to store it and what to do when it goes wild.

I have had scooters take off on me many times. I had a really bad one once on a solo dive, where I just ditched the thing because it flooded, it was an experimental one and it got super heavy and then was seemingly unstoppable and luckily was in my hands, so I just released it.

A flood and a short on a scooter seems to be an entirely foreseeable circumstance even if the switches are perfect.

For those who have the benefit of scooter training, what is the best practice for clipping off and handling a runaway scooter? What is being taught in this regard?


Not sure if you watched the video but this wasn't a flood or a short?

Personally I view it as a design shortcoming with the scooter (no separate on/off switch) combined with an inappropriate storage method for that type of DPV and an exceptional piece of bad luck!
 
A similar thing happened to me last year, diving a DiveX Piranha DPV, I forgot to lock the trigger at the start of my ascent after a dive to 70m, I let the DPV float up behind me as I usually do, at around 40m the tow line wrapped around the trigger pulling it on activating the DPV, trying to pull me to the surface. Fortunately I was on the shot that was anchored to the bottom and was able hang on for dear life, while my buddy sorted out the problem. If I had been on the lazy shot (as you call them we call it a drifting deco station) or drifting on a DSMB I would have been pulled to the surface with over an hour of deco and in a world of pain. It was also my most terrifying dive experience.

Really sorry to hear that you had a horrendous experience as well. Well done to both of your for reacting appropriately and resolving the issue. Do you do anything differently now?
 
thanks for sharing, glad all ended well.

I am in my head doing "instructor mode" and unsure if you want that or not, so will leave it at .. truly glad you didn't get hurt.

Go for it :thumb: :thumb: - obviously I retain the right to disagree :wink:
 
Situation handled brilliantly!

Did you attempt to hold on to the leash when you unclipped it

Great the guys were there in seconds for reassurance
 
hmm food for thought-will you still clip on the back ?

that could have been a whole lot worse
 
Congratulations on your weight loss.

I am somewhat surprised by this video. I have not ever taken any training in scooters, but it seems to me that a diver should be entirely 100% prepared for the thing to take off at any moment. So I ASSUME that an integral part of the training would include how to store it and what to do when it goes wild.

I have had scooters take off on me many times. I had a really bad one once on a solo dive, where I just ditched the thing because it flooded, it was an experimental one and it got super heavy and then was seemingly unstoppable and luckily was in my hands, so I just released it.

A flood and a short on a scooter seems to be an entirely foreseeable circumstance even if the switches are perfect.

For those who have the benefit of scooter training, what is the best practice for clipping off and handling a runaway scooter? What is being taught in this regard?

When I took the GUE DPV 1 training we where taught some things you can to regain control in case of a runaway DPV. We also practiced this a couple of times. Starting slow, increasing to full speed on second or third attempt. It was fun, but also a pretty frightening experience. Even in a controlled situation.

An option was retrieving the DPV by pulling on the tow leash and/or grabbing the prop with your hands on both sides, then keeping it close to your body to slow the DPV down. Once you’re no longer flying all over the place you should try to turn the DPV off.
Or… you can put something in the prop (such as your backup regulator) to make de DPV shut itself down. Someone accidentally found out during the training that this can also be an effective way to fix the problem :p.

To prevent the problem in the first place we where taught to always turn the DPV off when not in use. Exception is an out of gas situation, then it depends but most likely your priority is donating gas (and then turning the DPV off).

Just letting the DPV go is not preferable unless absolutely necessary as they can be pretty expensive devices. So in case of a flooded DPV: if it gets too heavy then just ditch it.
 
hmm food for thought-will you still clip on the back ?

Perhaps not surprisingly I wouldn't do that again with this model of scooter!

When I took the GUE DPV 1 training we where taught some things you can to regain control in case of a runaway DPV. We also practiced this a couple of times. Starting slow, increasing to full speed on second or third attempt. It was fun, but also a pretty frightening experience. Even in a controlled situation.

An option was retrieving the DPV by pulling on the tow leash and/or grabbing the prop with your hands on both sides, then keeping it close to your body to slow the DPV down. Once you’re no longer flying all over the place you should try to turn the DPV off.
Or… you can put something in the prop (such as your backup regulator) to make de DPV shut itself down. Someone accidentally found out during the training that this can also be an effective way to fix the problem :p.

To prevent the problem in the first place we where taught to always turn the DPV off when not in use. Exception is an out of gas situation, then it depends but most likely your priority is donating gas (and then turning the DPV off).

Just letting the DPV go is not preferable unless absolutely necessary as they can be pretty expensive devices. So in case of a flooded DPV: if it gets too heavy then just ditch it.

I'm not sure if you've watched the video but the Piranha doesn't have an on/off switch!

Also the leash was secured to the rear of my rebreather when it suddenly started which meant that the drill you descrive wasn't possible as I simply couldn't reach it.
 
To prevent the problem in the first place we where taught to always turn the DPV off when not in use. Exception is an out of gas situation, then it depends but most likely your priority is donating gas (and then turning the DPV off).
Right, turn off the electrical switch whenever the DPV is out of your hands. The problem is that some older models lack an electrical off switch and might only have a trigger pin or mechanical lock. Like on an original Gavin scooter (still some of those floating around) even if the trigger is pinned the motor could still turn on if something catches on the magnet wheel. So if you have a separate motor speed control or prop pitch adjustment then you should also dial that back to minimum before stowing.
 
That was a really long video…

TLDW version for others: the trigger lock thumb screw wasn’t sufficiently tight , trigger got an errant fin kick, locking the throttle on.

I think I’ll reconsider stowing my diveX scooters on the butt D, thanks for the video , glad you’re okay.
 

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