Deciding Between ScubaPro MK17 and MK11

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certainmisuse

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Good people, help me decide between these two ScubaPro 1st stage regulators. I know there are several posts on this, but each situation is unique. Let me provide details for mine. I'll be doing almost exclusively the following type of diving around Florida and the Keys:
  • Warm water (67 F - 85 F)
  • Shallow (<60')
  • BP/W setup if it matters
  • Shore diving (could be sandy, silty entries)
The last bullet has me concerned enough to strongly consider the fully enclosed MK17, but I like the compactness and simplicity of the MK11. Regarding my concern, in your estimation, will the MK11 have issues with beach entries over time? I do require 2 HP ports, but I am not opposed to a piston-style if that makes more sense (for example, the MK25).

Thanks.

David
 
get the 17. Less maintenance involved and don't have to worry as much about rinsing/debris.

why scubapro? why not more economical options that perform just as well?
 
Yes. Tusa makes the same reg for 400 ish. Same.
 
Either reg will suffice for you. If budget is a concern go with the Mk11. They are the same reg with the exception that the Mk17 is environmentally sealed. Based off of the information you listed in your op the Mk11 will serve you just fine.

Regardless of what type of reg (including brand as well as piston) you go with keeping it rinsed and cleaned will keep the first stage healthy. With shore diving the second alternate stage will suffer the most abuse, for lack of better term. It tends to be neglected / forgotten about when it comes to setup, the dive, and post dive. I've seen plenty of alternates full of sand, seashells, silt, salt, and rocks.
 
Your concerns about pistons and beach entries is spot on! The grit that adheres to the fine crevice where the piston oring meets the land accelerates the deterioration of that design even with "thorough rinsing".
The same concerns do not really apply to the "unsealed" Mk11. The diaphragm seal protects the innards completely, as long as you are careful about salt water droplets at the intake filter when you change tanks.
The outside of the diaphragm and the mainspring are easily flushed with water, no matter how sandy they might get. If you value the compact design, then that's enough reason to forego the extra environmental sealing chamber. For many divers that chamber often becomes a small problem, because the seal of the second diaphragm is quite light, and shops commonly seal it incorrectly, with the reg depressurized, so it ends up bulging. This causes the first stage IP change with depth to lag, until ambient pressure with depth pushes the second diaphragm flat against the plastic piston that transmits pressure to the main diaphragm.
One more complication, unless you're familiar with reg repair. Me? I like that seal, but it's not critical, even in sandy conditions.
 
get the 17. Less maintenance involved and don't have to worry as much about rinsing/debris.

why scubapro? why not more economical options that perform just as well?

I had ScubaPro with my first set of gear years ago, and had no issues. The reasoning is purely based on this experience. I also don't mind spending a little extra.
 
It's a great reg. Lots of us here dive other brands, and value is a frequent topic of discussion on SB. But you'll not be disappointed with the performance of the Mk11/17, notwithstanding Scubapro's unresponsiveness as a big company. It's a proven, excellent diaphragm design with great stability and easy, albeit expensive, parts availability.
 
Or buy a "new" old stock Subgear SG-50 on eBay. Same as Mk17 (literally!) for $225 with a C350 second stage that is grossly underappreciated.
Subgear was Scubapro's brief foray into the bargain market, where standard designs were manufactured by SP, but sold for less under the Subgear name with minor cosmetic differences. That bust makes for some great deals. I bought two sets.
 

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