Comparative Debate on AAS Configuration Options

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Big problem on internet forums is its a self selecting sample - the people reading and posting will be more interested than average in diving, will have more knowledge than average in diving and be more experienced than average. This skews the results.

Go to the real world on any of the day boats in the top diving resorts. 99.9% of divers will be in a jacket BCD, standard alternate octopus and most wont have heard of a wing or primary donate.

 

[DevonDiver]

Big problem on internet forums is its a self selecting sample - the people reading and posting will be more interested than average in diving, will have more knowledge than average in diving and be more experienced than average. This skews the results.

If skewed, what can we read into those results pointing towards more knowledgeable/experienced divers selecting non-'standard' configurations?

 

[Ste Wart]

If skewed, what can we read into those results pointing towards more knowledgeable/experienced divers selecting non-'standard' configurations?

Maybe ask what is their highest level of training. I'd be willing to bet that everyone who has put down "long hose donate" is at least Adv Nitrox qualified.

The only reason I dive a long hose on a single tank is simply to cut down on weight when travelling. I wanted to travel as light as possible, yet still have a rec and tec kit available, the octo was the first to fail the cut. I've never noticed any significant benefit of diving the long hose on a single. In fact the only noticeable difference is that it always manages to fall on the floor when kitting up!

 

[UCFKnightDiver]

Maybe ask what is their highest level of training. I'd be willing to bet that everyone who has put down "long hose donate" is at least Adv Nitrox qualified.

The only reason I dive a long hose on a single tank is simply to cut down on weight when travelling. I wanted to travel as light as possible, yet still have a rec and tec kit available, the octo was the first to fail the cut. I've never noticed any significant benefit of diving the long hose on a single. In fact the only noticeable difference is that it always manages to fall on the floor when kitting up!

Seriously doubt that!

As to your reg falling on the floor kitting up, tie a bolt snap on the hose near the second stage and clip it off, if it's not in my mouth the reg is clipped off.

 

[Ste Wart]

Seriously doubt that!

As to your reg falling on the floor kitting up, tie a bolt snap on the hose near the second stage and clip it off, if it's not in my mouth the reg is clipped off.

If I wanted a lump of metal hanging from my mouth I'd get my lip pierced

I referenced Adv Nitrox as it is the most likely first tech course for most people, therefore the first experience of the long hose. You need to to realise GUE/UTD/Fundies is very small section of the diving community. Try not to get worked up over the percentages

 

[DevonDiver]

I think that long hose is becoming more popular amongst non-tech, non-DIR divers. I've dived with several recreational, PADI trained, divers this year who were in BP&W with long hose.

 

[UCFKnightDiver]

If I wanted a lump of metal hanging from my mouth I'd get my lip pierced

I referenced Adv Nitrox as it is the most likely first tech course for most people, therefore the first experience of the long hose. You need to to realise GUE/UTD/Fundies is very small section of the diving community. Try not to get worked up over the percentages

Not necessarily, there are lots of divers who are exposed to the long hose configuration through a cavern/cave course, intro to tech course, or even a mentor who dives with it and like the idea of a long hose setup. Secondly you said "I'd be willing to bet that everyone who has put down "long hose donate" is at least Adv Nitrox qualified." The poll is on this forum which seems to have a decent following of UTD/GUE divers, cavern/cave divers, and even recreational divers who see the merits of diving with a long hose.

 

[UCFKnightDiver]

I think that long hose is becoming more popular amongst non-tech, non-DIR divers. I've dived with several recreational, PADI trained, divers this year who were in BP&W with long hose.

I too have seen quite a few recreational divers, and have some buddies myself who dive in a long hose configuration who are not tech trained.

 

[Ste Wart]

Not necessarily, there are lots of divers who are exposed to the long hose configuration through a cavern/cave course, intro to tech course, or even a mentor who dives with it and like the idea of a long hose setup. Secondly you said "I'd be willing to bet that everyone who has put down "long hose donate" is at least Adv Nitrox qualified." The poll is on this forum which seems to have a decent following of UTD/GUE divers, cavern/cave divers, and even recreational divers who see the merits of diving with a long hose.

I think it was also pointed out that the poll was skewed by the small sampling of respondents.

 

[shoredivr]

Maybe ask what is their highest level of training. I'd be willing to bet that everyone who has put down "long hose donate" is at least Adv Nitrox qualified.

Location may have something to do with it as well. I see more "non-standard" configurations here in the cold water of the Great Lakes.