Normal config to Long Hose

[bradlw]

OK, I started to enter a new thread but this one is close enough to re-awaken....

I had been diving a long hose set-up for my single tank recreational rig before I got out of diving. Looking into getting a new regulator and I just don't see a reason to go back to two short hoses. I've tried the buddy breath thing with short hoses (28 or 30-ish inches)...and when the other diver is inexperienced, and/or panicked their buoyancy control can be off and that is a royal pain in the rear to do a safe ascent that way...snuggled up like lovers face to face....

My old regulator has a 7-ft primary hose and a 28-inch hose for the necklace.
The 28-inch seems almost too long looping out over my right shoulder, but any shorter and I wouldn't be able to rotate my neck to the left fully.... so 28 inches seems good
The 7-ft also seems good. Super easy to wrap. Just naturaly wraps around the waste and while not specifically necessary, I can tuck it under something on my right waist just to keep things tidy.

My question though is about the shorter long hoses...I see a lot of mention for 5ft hoses and shorter
Some of the regulator companies...Deep Six for example, list 40-inch octo hoses for their single tank package, and I see 40-inch mentioned earlier in this thread, too.

I understand the thought that a super long hose isn't absolutely necessary if you're not caving or wreck diving through restricted passages, so I can see some advantage to getting slightly shorter long hoses....but
How do ya'll route these shorter hoses?
5-feet seems to wrap under my armpits to have enough length to then get around my neck again and back to my face....and it just seems weird
and I can't imagine wrapping a 40-inch hose....so then that leaves all that hose to dangle somewhere.

I'm not a big guy...just over 150# and 5-9...so it's not like my belly circumference is taking up the slack. I don't get it!

 

[boulderjohn]

As I posted back in February, for single tank diving with no possibility of going through a restriction during an OOA incident, I much prefer the 40" hose. I use a swivel so the secondary is comfortable in the mouth. It routs under my right arm so it is very streamlined.

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

As I posted back in February, for single tank diving with no possibility of going through a restriction during an OOA incident, I much prefer the 40" hose. I use a swivel so the secondary is comfortable in the mouth. It routs under my right arm so it is very streamlined.

I've seen the 40'- 22" called "Florida rigged" and also "California rigged", lol, everyone want's credit!
But it is an increasingly popular configuration amongst regular recreational divers because it can be used with any BC type and it's fool proof. Primary donate in any form just makes way more sense than any other configuration.

 

[rongoodman]

I'm relatively short, so a 60" hose wraps around nicely with no need to tuck it.

 

[bradlw]

As I posted back in February, for single tank diving with no possibility of going through a restriction during an OOA incident, I much prefer the 40" hose. I use a swivel so the secondary is comfortable in the mouth. It routs under my right arm so it is very streamlined.

ok, that makes sense with a swivel. I'll mock that up the next time I put my rig on, to get a feel for it.

Except for the purchase price of the shorter hose though, what do you see as the advantage?

I've seen the 40'- 22" called "Florida rigged" and also "California rigged", lol, everyone want's credit!
But it is an increasingly popular configuration amongst regular recreational divers because it can be used with any BC type and it's fool proof. Primary donate in any form just makes way more sense than any other configuration.

22-inch, I assume is the necklace reserve. As I mentioned before, for my regular port configuration though 22-inch seems too short!

I'm relatively short, so a 60" hose wraps around nicely with no need to tuck it.

I don't think of myself as tall...but yeah, that makes sense. thanks

 

[MaxBottomtime]

The advantage of the long hose is that in an air sharing situation, you can go single file through small openings. If that isn't going to be an issue, you don't need a truly long hose.

I've only had to share air twice, but the real advantage to the seven-foot hose was being able to swim side by side with the OOA diver.

 

[Jersey1971]

I like the 7 foot hose for single tank rec diving too, because I can easily switch from my usual tech configuration by moving a single hose from one first stage to another.

I also find it reassuring that I can handle any OOG situation exactly as I have drilled in tech.

If diving without a canister, I used one of these to wrap the hose.

Halcyon Dive Systems

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[Eric Sedletzky]

ok, that makes sense with a swivel. I'll mock that up the next time I put my rig on, to get a feel for it.

Except for the purchase price of the shorter hose though, what do you see as the advantage?

22-inch, I assume is the necklace reserve. As I mentioned before, for my regular port configuration though 22-inch seems too short!

I don't think of myself as tall...but yeah, that makes sense. thanks

Yes 22" would be the necklaced back up. If you feel it's too short then go with a 24" or longer, whatever works. You should be able to turn your head all the way to left without the backup being pulled out of your mouth or strained.

 

[bradlw]

Yeah, I need to look at my old set-up again. With the hose atached straight out of the right ride of the reg I can't imagine anything less than 27 or 28 inches working. Maybe a more flexible hose is needed. Hmm....

 

[boulderjohn]

Except for the purchase price of the shorter hose though, what do you see as the advantage?

I find it easier to handle during setup on a crowded boat. That's not a whole lot, I know, but it works for me.