and, really important, the head!What that means is that warm gloves and booties isn't addressing the main problem (even though it may help somewhat with the symptoms), which is warming up your core.
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and, really important, the head!What that means is that warm gloves and booties isn't addressing the main problem (even though it may help somewhat with the symptoms), which is warming up your core.
Yes, dry gloves should be equalized with the rest of the drysuit. That's what the posts about diving without wristseals and placing tubes underneath wristseals are about.With dry gloves, are they not equalized with suit and therefore lofted? 'Have not learned to dive dry yet, so 'beg understanding.
Yes, dry gloves should be equalized with the rest of the drysuit. That's what the posts about diving without wristseals and placing tubes underneath wristseals are about.
The loft in a diver's drygloves is limited, though; it definitely helps keep the diver's hands warmer, but the loft isn't a cure-all for the cold.
Is doesnt matter if they are equalized or not.With dry gloves, are they not equalized with suit and therefore lofted? 'Have not learned to dive dry yet, so 'beg understanding.
Um...I think we may be talking about entirely different things. It really does matter -- for multiple reasons -- if there's air transfer between a drysuit's main body and drygloves. And I don't know of any drygloves that are neoprene.Yes, dry gloves should be equalized with the rest of the drysuit. That's what the posts about diving without wristseals and placing tubes underneath wristseals are about.
The loft in a diver's drygloves is limited, though; it definitely helps keep the diver's hands warmer, but the loft isn't a cure-all for the cold.Is doesnt matter if they are equalized or not.With dry gloves, are they not equalized with suit and therefore lofted? 'Have not learned to dive dry yet, so 'beg understanding.
Neoprene compresses at depth whether it's surrounded by 4ata water or 4ata suit air. That compression reduces the size of the air bubbles in the neoprene and their insulation value drops as you descend.
You'd be incorrect, gas in your drysuit is at 4ata and compressing the insulation in those dry glove liners just as much as water will smush wetsuit glovesUm...I think we may be talking about entirely different things. It really does matter -- for multiple reasons -- if there's air transfer between a drysuit's main body and drygloves. And I don't know of any drygloves that are neoprene.
Did you intend to respond to @Endler's post?
I’m not sure about that. I agree that neoprene will compress, because it contains completely-sealed gas bubbles that compress with an increase in absolute pressure. But conventional insulation that relies on ‘loft’ (like Primaloft or fleece) doesn’t have sealed gas bubbles, so I don’t see why it would collapse.You'd be incorrect, gas in your drysuit is at 4ata and compressing the insulation in those dry glove liners just as much as water will smush wetsuit gloves
shrugs the neoprene bubbles are at 1ata inside. They collapse and are progressively less warm at depth.I’m not sure about that. I agree that neoprene will compress, because it contains completely-sealed gas bubbles that compress with an increase in absolute pressure. But conventional insulation that relies on ‘loft’ (like Primaloft or fleece) doesn’t have sealed gas bubbles, so I don’t see why it would collapse.
When you equalize your suit and gloves you are adding air at your regulator's intermediate pressure which is most likely higher higher than ambient pressure. This allows your suit and gloves to inflate. If you had neoprene gloves on your hands as a glove liner inside a dryglove, the neoprene would only be compressed before you added air and if your body position has your hands below your body when when diving horizontal trim, or arms down if diving vertical. The ability to add air your gloves is predicated by disrupting your wrist seals to allow warmer air to pass from your suit into the dryglove.shrugs the neoprene bubbles are at 1ata inside. They collapse and are progressively less warm at depth.
Loft is the cure all. The only other thing that can "make" your hands warm is having the rest of your core so damn hot with active heating that your body is pumping crazy hot blood out to your extremities in an effort to get rid of it. Your thinly insulated hands will still be warm in that scenario
Um, no. We are talking about different things. It seems you're referring specifically to neoprene undergloves. They're just plain gonna squish. Fluffy dryglove liners loft like drysuit undergarments.You'd be incorrect, gas in your drysuit is at 4ata and compressing the insulation in those dry glove liners just as much as water will smush wetsuit gloves