CoCoView without Nitrox

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dpspaceman

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Hi All,
Wanted to know if it should worth it to get nitrox cert prior to cocoview or if we will have a great time anyways with the ability to dive 4-5 like everyone claims at cocoview.

David
 
A Nitrox card is a very useful too. Go ahead and get it ASAP so you'll have it for when you want to use it.
 
I'm not sure how you could do 4-5 dives a day there without nitrox and a computer. I timed out at the end of the day with both.
 
I'm not sure how you could do 4-5 dives a day there without nitrox and a computer. I timed out at the end of the day with both.

What he said.
Get the nitrox card....it will always be handy.
 
Absolutely.... get it before you go, or get it with Patty once you get there. It will keep you in the safe zone on your computer. There was a couple on our boat last trip who were NOT doing Nitrox, everyone else was. They ended up skipping several drop off dives as they said their computer wouldn't let them do the dive unless they stayed really shallow. By the end of the week, they said they would definitely get that cert as soon as they got home as they missed so many dives with us.
 
I just got back from CoCo view a couple of weeks ago. Me and my buddy were both Nitrox Certified, but never used Nitrox. We dove 26 dives in one week, diving 2 dives the day we got there, and 2 the day before our departure. The rest of the week we dove 4 or 5 a day. We both dove with computers. A couple of times throughout the week our computers got one bar into the yellow before we finished the dive, but within 30 minutes on the surface we were back to green, and was well into the green before we started our next dive.

We actually had already prepaid and was planning on using Nitrox all week, but after reading a previous thread where Doc claimed it wasn't needed, we decided to start on air and switch to Nitrox if/when needed, and we never did.

If you have the time to get Nitrox certified before you leave. It definitely won't hurt to have it, but I don't think it is required.


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Absolutely.... get it before you go, or get it with Patty once you get there. It will keep you in the safe zone on your computer. There was a couple on our boat last trip who were NOT doing Nitrox, everyone else was. They ended up skipping several drop off dives as they said their computer wouldn't let them do the dive unless they stayed really shallow. By the end of the week, they said they would definitely get that cert as soon as they got home as they missed so many dives with us.
Keeping a computer happy varies with the dive computer. Some are excessively strict.

And some divers think it's a big deal to push one into the yellow. :silly: I try to avoid going into the red.
 
Here is the post from Doc that I referred to.

http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/7310129-post10.html

It's more an issue of consumer demand.

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{A related side-story: For many years, CCV had the Cabanas as open-air, non AC rooms. They heard a demand from statements by visitors that these units be made AC. They closed up all of the ventilation windows with glass, and plugged in the AC. In my estimation, the worst thing they ever did. I can sweat at the drop of a hat, but I never needed AC in the rooms, a fan was fine but only on some very hot days. Now, because of consumer perception and demand of competition, the rooms are now sealed off from the environment. Not much different than how nitrox evolved.}

This thread is now more a discussion of the efficacy and use of nitrox as a tool for use when appropriate. (versus just insisting on it).

I do understand that what I am saying is SCUBA heresy and may well generate derisive comments. BlueHouse is used to that, I however am rather thin skinned and my feelings are hurt easily, so don't flame too hard, y'all.

Feeling frisky and other anecdotal nitrox benefits aside, I can tell you some basic facts that I have noted over many return trips to the specific South side environs of CCV.

I have a very conservative wrist mount dive computer, well- 3 of them actually. (all different but equally restrictive)

Here's my approximate daily (South side) CCV dive schedule, on air:

#1 08:40 - 09:40 (max 75fsw, avg 45fsw)
#2 10:10 - 11:10 (max 55fsw, avg 35fsw)
#3 14:10 - 15:10 (max 65fsw, avg 40fsw)
#4 15:45 - 17:00 (max 45fsw, avg 30fsw) sometimes BTs of 2 hrs
#5 20:00 - 21:00 (max 55fsw, avg 25fsw)
#6 21:45 - 22:45 (max 25fsw, avg 9fsw)

Shallow? You bet. After so many dives on Roatan's South shore, I can tell you, that's where the cool stuff resides.

There is precious little that resides beyond 55fsw to attract me there unless someone is pointing frantically at something and making an appropriate critter signal.

The two deep profile dives, as required by reef architecture, are Calvins Crack and Mary's Place- both easily slot into the parameters of my dive #1 as above, exactly as how they will be presented to you- first dive of the day.

Again, my redundant dive computers were either "born" as stupidly conservative or I have them set that way. After diving at CCV on repeated return trips (2475 dives there, give or take), I have hit "Yellow" pixels only once, owing a 3 minute stop at 20fsw. Once. On air.

Nitrox grew into a life of it's own in the SCUBA industry. Those of us who were there when it was first presented and marketed to the public (We just saw it happen, unlike Al Gore who actually invented it himself). It is well discussed in other threads how it evolved from something frightening, to it being embraced by profit hungry SCUBA LDS, to it being a perceived requirement by divers for every dive, all the time. That just isn't how it started, what it was designed for, or any of that stuff.

That said, there is not one LDS that doesn't promote its use.

You can write it off to eccentricity on my part, but I always snicker a bit when I see the word nitrox being capitalized. It makes me wonder from the outset... how much else have we gotten wrong?

Use it if you like, I certainly do when the dive (or schedule) requires it.

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Thank you for the information here. It is very very useful. The issue for me here is that I can get my wife and I nitrox certified easily... and not sure if my in-laws and sister-in-law will be easy to convince.... as long as we can still get 5-6 dives a day, I believe we will be happy. Unsure if we need very deep dives as well, but I would like to get the MAX (20+ dives) out of my week there is very important goal hahaha.
 
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...We dove 26 dives in one week, diving 2 dives the day we got there, and 2 the day before our departure. The rest of the week we dove 4 or 5 a day.

We actually had already prepaid and was planning on using Nitrox all week, but after reading a previous thread where Doc claimed it wasn't needed, we decided to start on air and switch to Nitrox if/when needed, and we never did.

It definitely won't hurt to have it, but I don't think it is

Stay shallow, see the good stuff.
 

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