cenotes experience/certification?

[GreenDiverDown]

I've seen more than one diver come out so shaken by their experience that they would not do it again.

I've seen diver's with buoyancy skills so... hmm... new?.. that they had to be towed thru the "cavern".

I've seen a group led thru a cavern by a guide who had never been there himself.

I've seen a diver lost and unaccounted for by the instructor.

... and I've seen guided ceynote cavern dives that for all purposes were cave dives in reality.

 

[dlndavid]

I've seen more than one diver come out so shaken by their experience that they would not do it again.

I've seen diver's with buoyancy skills so... hmm... new?.. that they had to be towed thru the "cavern".

I've seen a group led thru a cavern by a guide who had never been there himself.

I've seen a diver lost and unaccounted for by the instructor.

... and I've seen guided ceynote cavern dives that for all purposes were cave dives in reality.

I've seen many posts here on ScubaBoard, and your's is one of the funniest, unsupported by fact of any kind, and pure B.S. Thanks for your "I've seen" testimonials though, you really get around.

 

[KidK9]

LoL. that's funny.

 

[GreenDiverDown]

I've seen many posts here on ScubaBoard, and your's is one of the funniest, unsupported by fact of any kind, and pure B.S. Thanks for your "I've seen" testimonials though, you really get around.

Huh?

I've been here since the beginning of SB and my posts have always been honest if nothing else. I think my credibilty is untarnished. To have a SB "guide" acuse me of lying is a bit 'unprofessional'... and personally a little unsettling.

What I posted is absolutely true. I'm not saying this is necessarily the norm... but I have seen it. What do you want for proof?

 

[dlndavid]

More than your "I've seen", Sorry if my post unsettled you, and as an SB guide, it doesn't perclude me to opine. Can you really put forth more than an "I've seen", this is a serious discusion and you may just be influencing someone who might consider a cenote dive. Too much doom and gloom in your post with no pudding, in my opinion. You support and build confidence in a positive, not in the negative.

 

[GreenDiverDown]

More than your "I've seen", Sorry if my post unsettled you, and as an SB guide, it doesn't perclude me to opine. Can you really put forth more than an "I've seen", this is a serious discusion and you may just be influencing someone who might consider a cenote dive. Too much doom and gloom in your post with no pudding, in my opinion. You support and build confidence in a positive, not in the negative.

Hey... you can't get tweaked just because I didn't present my point in a manner in which you would approve. I didn't see the need to include any "pudding" and I'm not sure that I want to build this up as something everyone should try.

 

[dlndavid]

Why not? Cenote dives are easy and fun. And you are the one who got tweaked. Merry Christmas dude.
btw; grew up in Scottsdale

 

[GreenDiverDown]

Why not? Cenote dives are easy and fun.[/QUOTE]

Not for everyone. Not for all ceynotes.

And you are the one who got tweaked.

That's funny. You sling mud and then you expect not to get dirty... I can see that there is no value continuing this discussion.

 

[dlndavid]

and your point? mud? what mud?

 

[MikeFerrara]

I didn't "see it" because I've never been to the Mexican caves but I've heard of the things Stephen describes. As I pointed out in a couple of my posts, at one time, at least, there was quit a bit of concern in the cave diving community over some of the stuff that was going on down there. Hence the talk of introducing standards but is it one agencies standards, all the agencies or the government? Who is obligated to follow those standards? If they are agency standards, only pro members of that agency are obligated to apply them. I'm not familiar with whatever standards apply to cavern guides in mexico and I kind of asked Dennis questions to get an idea of who follows them and who doesn't. I don't know the answers but if I was an open water diver interested in a guided dive down there I would find out. It really isn't like having a DM on a 50 ft reef dive where you're in an environment that you "yourself" are, in theory, qualified to dive with or without a guide.