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How many ladders have you. You still have to take your turn at the ladder. Why would everyone doff the gear at the same time, get real. If they have terrible ladders all the more reason not to put weight on them. Are you making this up as you go along. Are the ladders fit for purpose or not.
News flash, some boats are not suitable for tech diving. Whether its the boat, the benches, the skipper, the crew, or the ladder. Quite a few boats around the world can't or don't want to cater to anything more than a diver in a single tank

You stay at home and cry in your soup over having to lift a set of doubles. I’m more than able to handle my gear.

Doesnt sound like it to me. Or you are just enjoying arguing that every boat everywhere should have a lift installed
 
And I don’t think everyone can go up every ladder out there with doubles on.

I see a few fins on ladders, my opinion is the suck compared to steps but I’ve only climbed a few different ones. I feel that I can climb more weight up a reasonable ladder than a fin on one just because of the body mechanics.
 
News flash, some boats are not suitable for tech diving. Whether its the boat, the benches, the skipper, the crew, or the ladder. Quite a few boats around the world can't or don't want to cater to anything more than a diver in a single tank



Doesnt sound like it to me. Or you are just enjoying arguing that every boat everywhere should have a lift installed
Are you trying to put words in my mouth. I never as much as used the word lift let alone promote them. What I said was it is ridiculous to think you can’t dive unless you can climb a ladder dressed in a twinset, try getting your facts right.
 
Are you trying to put words in my mouth. I never as much as used the word lift let alone promote them. What I said was it is ridiculous to think you can’t dive unless you can climb a ladder dressed in a twinset, try getting your facts right.
Do you want me to carry your twins to the water for shore dives too? Can you walk up the stairs from the beach to the sidewalk? Should I find you a cart?
 
A moment to cool down, please. A "dive ladder" is an awfully all-encompassing term.

First, consider a boat that I would NEVER book, just due to its ladder:
Boat Captain's rules or your own safety?

Next, check out a REAL ladder. Enrique Alvarez. My long gone grandma could exit on that one in full gear...
 

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I detest Christmas tree ladders for open ocean diving. Also, a diver should come up the ladder completely kitted up, fins on wrists.

But as I no longer invite strangers on my boat, you are in no danger of having to come up a ladder my way.
 
Do you want me to carry your twins to the water for shore dives too? Can you walk up the stairs from the beach to the sidewalk? Should I find you a cart?
I don’t know what gave you the idea I would need you to do anything for me. You have enough to do to take care of yourself.
 
I detest Christmas tree ladders for open ocean diving. Also, a diver should come up the ladder completely kitted up, fins on wrists.
Our mileage varies. Greatly.

Three (to five) foot seas is pretty normal here. WHY do you detest Christmas tree ladders?

For a dive boat that is tied into a wreck (in NY shipping lanes) and moderate seas, having a diver blown off the ladder with no fins is quite a problem.

But as I no longer invite strangers on my boat, you are in no danger of having to come up a ladder my way.
Fine, no prob.

I like choices...
 
...For a dive boat that is tied into a wreck (in NY shipping lanes) and moderate seas, having a diver blown off the ladder with no fins is quite a problem...

It's why they are on your wrists. Of all the dives I've done, I've been thrown off the ladder once, I did not need my fins, but I could :)
 
Our mileage varies. Greatly.

Three (to five) foot seas is pretty normal here. WHY do you detest Christmas tree ladders?

For a dive boat that is tied into a wreck (in NY shipping lanes) and moderate seas, having a diver blown off the ladder with no fins is quite a problem.

Fine, no prob.

I like choices...
As the boat swings on the mooring/anchor, it sometimes (or more) lays beam to the seas. That makes the ladder rungs like the end of a sledgehammer ready to smack you as the boat rocks. I don’t understand why northeast wreck boats don’t rock. When divers grab the center upright, and the boat moves sideways, the diver falls off the ladder and it stabs him/her. If they are on a rung ladder, they grab the sides of the ladder which gives more stability.
 
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