Backup Regulator Necklace Hose Routing

[inquis]

No question it opens the door to primary donate. Once donated though, the appeal diminishes in my view. During Rescue training, I was the popular buddy, as I used a long hose. OTOH, I had to share on a std. 40" octo and hated it. A 40" primary donate would be no different.

 

[RobPNW]

Thanks for the tips. In addition to opening the door to different types of diving down the road and associated muscle memory, I think routing up from under the arm would add mouth comfort value. Seems the head would be more free to rotate side to side without the feeling that the mouthpiece is trying to pull or push out of the mouth.

 

[inquis]

A 7 ft hog loop is standard in the tech world where dives can be measured in hours. Do you think an uncomfortable routing would be tolerated?

 

[-JD-]

Is there a certification we can do to self service our own regulators without voiding any vendor maintenance agreement?

HOG and Deep Six Gear have official owner-service training programs and parts availability. (Actually TDI or SDI specialty courses)

Rob Singler (rsingler) is doing a generic zoom-based training covering all different type of regs. It is getting great reviews. But not recognized by any authority and SP parts availability will be through the "gray" market.

 

[loosenit2]

A 7 ft hog loop is standard in the tech world where dives can be measured in hours. Do you think an uncomfortable routing would be tolerated?

there is nothing uncomfortable about a 7ft hog loop. The only thing the 7 ft hose does is add is a few additional skills. 1. keeping hog looped correctly, either under cannister light, tucked into belt, or looped under keeper. 2. learning how to donate correctly. 3. keeping the long hose on top of everything and free at all times to facilitate donating. These are all practiced every dive with a modified s-drill. The modified s-drill ensures your hose is free and you maintain practice at doing skill.

on another note tech dives are not necessarily measured in hours. to be a technical dive all a dive has to do is exceed recreational limits (depth, time, overhead environment, multiple gasses).

 

[drk5036]

there is nothing uncomfortable about a 7ft hog loop. The only thing the 7 ft hose does is add is a few additional skills. 1. keeping hog looped correctly, either under cannister light, tucked into belt, or looped under keeper. 2. learning how to donate correctly. 3. keeping the long hose on top of everything and free at all times to facilitate donating. These are all practiced every dive with a modified s-drill. The modified s-drill ensures your hose is free and you maintain practice at doing skill.

on another note tech dives are not necessarily measured in hours. to be a technical dive all a dive has to do is exceed recreational limits (depth, time, overhead environment, multiple gasses).

I think you missed their point.

 

[loosenit2]

I think you missed their point.

i see that I did.

 

[Nemrod]

While not "uncomfortable" and that being subjective, I will say that as a follower of Minimalism I do not need that extra two feet of hose for open water, ocean, recreational diving. Since I do not need it I do not have it. And the extra two feet requires stowing and is more hose to pack and carry in the case and basically just gets in the way all around. I think I will stay with either a 40 inch under the arm or a 60 inch (5 feet) Hog wrapped, both with a 90 or 110 swivel. Now, for penetration, overhead, deco diving buddy support, no doubt that extra two feet could be worth the hassle, but for my normal purpose, it is in the way and simply more clutter. Opinions vary, that is mine. If I do not need it then I do not have it with me.

James

 

[RobPNW]

For me as a non seasoned guy, I like the idea of having the muscle memory of the setup as I would like to keep the door open to more advanced dives down the road. For now, I will likely just do the 40" hose under the arm and just get a longer one later when I'm ready.

 

[inquis]

For now, I will likely just do the 40" hose

I highly encourage you to swim side-by-side on buddy's 40" octopus (the ubiquitous OW configuration). Even if you pretend because of COVID, by just holding it in front of your regulator.