ok this has been hashed out before and i have made these comments to some other people on this board before, and dont even anybody say im being paid by FF to say this because i like them, but there not the only fins i use i also have some Tigers, , mares avanti, Aries velocities, and Space Frogs, and yes i have tried jets and didnt like them because they caused my toes to get crammed into the foot pocket, and splits all the designs are copies of Bob Evans Foil force fin from several years ago, even ask the owner of bio fin, because he got the idea from bab as they were friends at the time.
Walter, how is it a bicycle kick if you are only from the knee down to kick, and also there not that bad because i use my pros to frog kick in most of the time, along with the other fins i own.
WW- im not going to touch that leg remark because i have made a comment before and it wasnt worth it, but works for some people might not for the rest.
Deep6 when did rodales even review the force fins in the past year, because it wasnt at the recent fin test in cozy because i saw that group and saw how they ran the fin test and that would have been the most unscientific, biased test i have ever seen in my life, honestly how can you do a unbiased testing of a fin in one dive in a current with divers who already have a bias as to what they like and dont.
cave seeker i know some people in my area who are the same way and there common complaint about the jets was they were getting there toes smashed and cramped with the jets where they didnt with the pros.
O-Ring: to back up in pros or all force fins you simply only uses your ankles this is by trying to put your toes on your shin. Also how are they so expensive there no more expensive then say a pair of jets, volos/tigers, or splits <shudder> i think i paid roughly 110 for my last pair, and the whiskers arent a $300 there like 50 on the extras no more expensive then spring straps which arent needed on FF
smrtblnddiver - they dont look like duck feet, because they look like a fishes tail because thats how they work. on the down stroke of the fin is were you get your forward movement, and then on the back swing because the fins are curved you get less resistance so less energy used
ew1usnr- that price is about right but there are discounts beyong that, and for the bungies straps those are a personal choice just like spring straps as for the speed pods, shark teeth or whiskers those are options for the extra force only and those option you can only use one at the time and whiskers are what i use because if you click them to the inside of the fin it increases the resistance of the fin but channels the water through the fin faster oving you through the water quicker, this effect is similar to getting the fin in the delta material(read on) . finally thetan delta material is super stiff so unless you have calves of steel the regualr material would be reccomended
MWpowell- its called bungie straps because of the waythe fins are designed and stay onyour foot without the need of straps, they are just there for safety, try it some time you get a chance to try them, try it with out the fins straps they do stay on, as i found out in grand cayman this past summer when i forgot to secure my heel straps and did a 45 minute dive and they didnt come off and i didnt notice it until i got back on the boats ladder when i went to move the strap and it was onthe bottom of the fin instead of on my heal.
you know this bashing of people on certain brands is like GI3's comments on how not diving a certain way is going to get you killed, yeah there are people who love certain things that i wouldnt use but you dont see me bashing it into the ground because its fun or what other people are doing.
YMMV
Walter, how is it a bicycle kick if you are only from the knee down to kick, and also there not that bad because i use my pros to frog kick in most of the time, along with the other fins i own.
WW- im not going to touch that leg remark because i have made a comment before and it wasnt worth it, but works for some people might not for the rest.
Deep6 when did rodales even review the force fins in the past year, because it wasnt at the recent fin test in cozy because i saw that group and saw how they ran the fin test and that would have been the most unscientific, biased test i have ever seen in my life, honestly how can you do a unbiased testing of a fin in one dive in a current with divers who already have a bias as to what they like and dont.
cave seeker i know some people in my area who are the same way and there common complaint about the jets was they were getting there toes smashed and cramped with the jets where they didnt with the pros.
O-Ring: to back up in pros or all force fins you simply only uses your ankles this is by trying to put your toes on your shin. Also how are they so expensive there no more expensive then say a pair of jets, volos/tigers, or splits <shudder> i think i paid roughly 110 for my last pair, and the whiskers arent a $300 there like 50 on the extras no more expensive then spring straps which arent needed on FF
smrtblnddiver - they dont look like duck feet, because they look like a fishes tail because thats how they work. on the down stroke of the fin is were you get your forward movement, and then on the back swing because the fins are curved you get less resistance so less energy used
ew1usnr- that price is about right but there are discounts beyong that, and for the bungies straps those are a personal choice just like spring straps as for the speed pods, shark teeth or whiskers those are options for the extra force only and those option you can only use one at the time and whiskers are what i use because if you click them to the inside of the fin it increases the resistance of the fin but channels the water through the fin faster oving you through the water quicker, this effect is similar to getting the fin in the delta material(read on) . finally thetan delta material is super stiff so unless you have calves of steel the regualr material would be reccomended
MWpowell- its called bungie straps because of the waythe fins are designed and stay onyour foot without the need of straps, they are just there for safety, try it some time you get a chance to try them, try it with out the fins straps they do stay on, as i found out in grand cayman this past summer when i forgot to secure my heel straps and did a 45 minute dive and they didnt come off and i didnt notice it until i got back on the boats ladder when i went to move the strap and it was onthe bottom of the fin instead of on my heal.
you know this bashing of people on certain brands is like GI3's comments on how not diving a certain way is going to get you killed, yeah there are people who love certain things that i wouldnt use but you dont see me bashing it into the ground because its fun or what other people are doing.
YMMV
