4th Cruise Ship Pier Approved along with Mantaraya Development

[BRT]

I'm biased but I always thought a mainland pier made a lot more sense than another pier in Cozumel. As with everything down there I'll believe it when I see it, but this is a positive development.

Quintana Roo Abandons Fourth Cozumel Pier Plan, Proposes New Port Near Puerto Morelos

Chetumal, Mexico — Following widespread political and social opposition to the proposed construction of a fourth pier in Cozumel, the director of Quintana

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Puerto Morelos does not need a cruise ship pier!

 

[ggunn]

Puerto Morelos does not need a cruise ship pier!

Of course, that begs the question of whether anyone needs a cruise ship pier, but the Yucatan is far larger than the west coast of Cozumel, so the distributed impact of a pier is significantly less.

 

[BRT]

Of course, that begs the question of whether anyone needs a cruise ship pier, but the Yucatan is far larger than the west coast of Cozumel, so the distributed impact of a pier is significantly less.

I believe PM has already been impacted enough.

 

[ggunn]

I believe PM has already been impacted enough.

The reality is that over the last, what, 40 years or so, the cruise ship industry has taken advantage of the climate, both physical and political, in that part of the Caribbean to do their business. In the past it has been mostly concentrated on Cozumel, but the island's infrastructure is saturated; for the industry to continue to grow it has to expand into other locations, and it is natural for them to pick locations where there are already onshore facilities.

Unfortunately for the people who live in these areas, what happened to Cozumel has demonstrated that the benefits to locals of cruise ship facilities being built near them are limited.

 

[BRT]

The reality is that over the last, what, 40 years or so, the cruise ship industry has taken advantage of the climate, both physical and political, in that part of the Caribbean to do their business. In the past it has been mostly concentrated on Cozumel, but the island's infrastructure is saturated; for the industry to continue to grow it has to expand into other locations, and it is natural for them to pick locations where there are already onshore facilities.

Unfortunately for the people who live in these areas, what happened to Cozumel has demonstrated that the benefits to locals of cruise ship facilities being built near them are limited.

Yeah, I'm not sure about that. Cruise ship passengers spend a lot of money.

 

[ggunn]

Yeah, I'm not sure about that. Cruise ship passengers spend a lot of money.

They help some of the locals, sure, but not all of them - not, for example, the hotels and restaurants. Did you not say, "Puerto Morelos does not need a cruise ship pier!"?

 

[Wheeler925]

The reality is that over the last, what, 40 years or so, the cruise ship industry has taken advantage of the climate, both physical and political, in that part of the Caribbean to do their business. In the past it has been mostly concentrated on Cozumel, but the island's infrastructure is saturated; for the industry to continue to grow it has to expand into other locations, and it is natural for them to pick locations where there are already onshore facilities.

Unfortunately for the people who live in these areas, what happened to Cozumel has demonstrated that the benefits to locals of cruise ship facilities being built near them are limited.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the vast majority of the locals wouldn't be living on Cozumel if it wasn't for the cruise ships and the money they bring.

 

[BRT]

They help some of the locals, sure, but not all of them - not, for example, the hotels and restaurants. Did you not say, "Puerto Morelos does not need a cruise ship pier!"?

I did. Very selfishly, but I did. Cozumel doesn't need any either. So far as I am concerned.

 

[mcohen1021]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the vast majority of the locals wouldn't be living on Cozumel if it wasn't for the cruise ships and the money they bring.

You bring up an interesting question.

The 2-3 ships that docked in CZ in the 90s stayed overnight. Now they stay until 5-6 pm.

I call it greed by the cruise ship company. Leave at 5 PM to increase gambling, alcohol and other sales on board...

That would hurt the island unless what? Unless they get more boats in there during the day.

More boats = more money for the cruise ship co, and maybe slightly more money for the island after you subtract the money they would have made with the cruisers staying overnight.

So Ive wondered if proportionately if the island is better off, worse off or the same as they were in the old days

I do know one thing - its sucks for those of us who love to stay on the island.

Cruisers are a special breed of annoying.

 

[BRT]

You bring up an interesting question.

The 2-3 ships that docked in CZ in the 90s stayed overnight. Now they stay until 5-6 pm.

I call it greed by the cruise ship company. Leave at 5 PM to increase gambling, alcohol and other sales on board...

That would hurt the island unless what? Unless they get more boats in there during the day.

More boats = more money for the cruise ship co, and maybe slightly more money for the island after you subtract the money they would have made with the cruisers staying overnight.

So Ive wondered if proportionately if the island is better off, worse off or the same as they were in the old days

I do know one thing - its sucks for those of us who love to stay on the island.

Cruisers are a special breed of annoying.

I remember 20-25 years ago in Puerto Morelos hearing an American local resident in Puerto Morelos complaining loudly at the local fish cooperative how the tourists (Me) were making prices go out of sight on fish and lobster. She was not incorrect. We used to stay a week or so in housing close to the beach in Puerto Morelos. Now we stay longer but clear on the other side of the highway where we can afford to stay. And I am glad my fisherman friend insists on giving us lobster, cause I certainly would not pay the price at the cooperative!